Make relics have the same iLVL as the Raid weapons and released at the same time

[whiskeybravo]

I agree with your point but what about the fact that people can get carried through hard content to higher item levels? They're not putting in effort but still reaping rewards.

You can't control what people do with their time/money. All that can be done is trying to make a system that's fair for everyone to participate in. I think we have a fair system in place so this is kinda side-stepping the topic of whether relics should have the same item level as raid weapons upon release. Paying for a carry or botting through Eureka are of equal offense, but thankfully they are far from the norm.

My counterpoint: find a better group and get better at the game then.

If we didn't have the option of getting better gear, then yea, that's what we'd all be stuck working on.

[Zephera]

You can't control what people do with their time/money. All that can be done is trying to make a system that's fair for everyone to participate in. I think we have a fair system in place so this is kinda side-stepping the topic of whether relics should have the same item level as raid weapons upon release. Paying for a carry or botting through Eureka are of equal offense, but thankfully they are far from the norm.

Only bought it up as the argument from both sides seems mainly to be based around reward for effort made. It's a pretty subjective topic though, people have different standards for what constitutes effort, whether it be through raw difficulty or time consumed.