Make relics have the same iLVL as the Raid weapons and released at the same time

[Nezerius]

Correct... because you've changed the argument. This entire time you have maintained wanting relics which aren't "glamour sticks" yet your proposal here reduces it to previously that. If it took 3-4 months to obtain a full set, that means you've spent the entire patch working on obtaining i380 gear. How exactly is this relevant when a couple weeks to a month later, i390 would release, thus you're back to working on the relic set again? At this point, it's simply glamour. Which I mean, is completely fine. But it isn't what you were arguing. Even if we jump the gear to i390, by that point everyone will have geared their main with full tomestone.

Once again, you've moved the goal post.

Yes, I surely must be moving goal posts again and again.

Oh wait, my 2nd post on page 4 even stated the following: "They could even raise the relic gear to i385 or 390 with the odd-numbered patch, if they decide to augment the crafted gear again (i380>i390, similar to the i350>i360 thing in 4.3)."
I mentioned i385 or i390 because of the likelihood of the gear having 5 materia slots, similar to the Anemos gear.

Do you think they made that change for arbitrary reasons? They just felt like it out of the blue? No. They were numerous complaints because the general playerbase despised how long a grind it took. Therefore, the compromise was to increase the raid weapon's ilvl by five, thus allowing them to ease the grind down without making raiders feel cheated. Basically, it boiled down to an obscenely long grind comparable to the difficulty of Savage or an easier one but a slightly weaker weapon. They opted for the latter due to player feedback. They even mention said feedback outright. A change like this doesn't occur unless people complain.

Neither of us know the exact reason on why they changed it, unless you can cite your proof that it was done because of how the "general playerbase" hated it. And no, a sentence that includes the word feedback that can vaguely be interpreted as players disliking something doesn't work, especially when said sentence also mentioned that they made mistakes with the difficulty of Gordias and the item level of rewards.
I'd also like the remind you that they recreated Diadem twice (Diadem 2.0, Eureka), despite the fact that players disliked Diadem.

Look at Pagos. The only reason they are using Anemos as the templaye for Pyros is due to how much people detest Pagos. That doesn't if people didn't bombard them with ridicule. The decision to make the raid weapon better than the relic came as a result of similar feedback.

Yes, they've stated that they're using Anemos as a template for Pyros.
But since Pyros hasn't been out yet, we don't know how closely it will stay true to said template. Unless you're hiding a time machine somewhere, and you're actually from the future (in which case, what are the new 5.0 jobs?).

Unlike Ultimate however, the relic was never intended for a specifically niche audience, but the general playerbase. Therefore, if said playerbase overwhelmingly dislikes something... change is likely to occur. I need only point towards Pagos to demonstrate that. Regardless, I have little issue with what they did in Heavensward, including the Unidentifiable step. So at this point, we're arguing in circles.

Despite the fact that it was made for the "general playerbase", the relics have always been developed towards the "element of time". A grind that people go through at their own pace. It even says so as one of the three concept in Yoshi-P's post: "Creating these weapons will require you to put in effort over a longer period of time."

[dmi]

inb4 Eureka becomes a raid with an ilvl410 weapon in march 2019.


(as like diadem before (ilvl280))



just my 2 gils