Why is it "meta" for melee DPS to do the call-outs and countdowns?

[Stormfur]

I'm just curious about this -- I don't have a problem with it although I'm still learning the best times to do this, and during the heat of battle it can be hard to remember.

But I was wondering why it's the melee DPS that's responsible for the call-outs and countdowns. I would think that ranged would be a better option since they have a wider view of the field. I also feel like they have less overall responsibility -- they're not really in the thick of fights like a melee, and they're not strained like a healer.

Of course that's not to say they don't matter - they absolutely do and they can do some astounding damage. It just seems odd to place the call-outs on melee rather than ranged, or even tank for that matter.

Your thoughts?

[whiskeybravo]

What?

Never relied on a DPS to do callouts. Some talented people can, sure. But even as a tank main, I tell my group if I have to go DPS I'm not doing callouts. Unless it's something specific to DPS, like "I got this add" or in 11 savage where the melee calls out if they need a different color fist. On 06s we'd occasionally let a nin pull to start the countdown but that's kind of a weird situation because of the delay.

Never heard of this DPS calling out mechanics "meta"

But this is also in the PvP thread so I am thoroughly confused.

[Nova_Rox]

What?

Never relied on a DPS to do callouts. Some talented people can, sure. But even as a tank main, I tell my group if I have to go DPS I'm not doing callouts. Unless it's something specific to DPS, like "I got this add" or in 11 savage where the melee calls out if they need a different color fist. On 06s we'd occasionally let a nin pull to start the countdown but that's kind of a weird situation because of the delay.

Never heard of this DPS calling out mechanics "meta"

But this is also in the PvP thread so I am thoroughly confused.

Talking about Feast.



Melee do CDs because the ranged have an easier time getting to any target the melee calls, meanwhile the ranged may do a call to the healer that's way back in spawn and forces the melee into a bad spot and kills him.

That being said, anyone can do CDs. I tend to take over in my matches unless I'm matched with an equally experienced melee DPS.

[BloodRubyXII]

What?

Never relied on a DPS to do callouts. Some talented people can, sure. But even as a tank main, I tell my group if I have to go DPS I'm not doing callouts. Unless it's something specific to DPS, like "I got this add" or in 11 savage where the melee calls out if they need a different color fist. On 06s we'd occasionally let a nin pull to start the countdown but that's kind of a weird situation because of the delay.

Never heard of this DPS calling out mechanics "meta"

But this is also in the PvP thread so I am thoroughly confused.

Well this will rank as one of the most pointless posts of all time.

It's probably a lot to do with the fact that a range can literally call and hit any target in feast, melee needs more prep time, so it's easier for the melee to call hard swaps rather than have a range call something I have no chance of engaging safely.

As NIN I have to get up shadow fang and build combo to edge (4 gcds) to get ready to burst, therefore it's easier for me to start the CD.

[bounddreamer]

In my static it's usually either tanks or our caster.

[Sunako]

He is not talking about countdown pull macro against pve bosses. He is talking about 4v4 feast when you are supposed to burst.

[Praesul]

Countdowns are much more reliant on the DPS player's cooldowns and resources. And who is going to know what they have available? Yeah, themselves.

It's as simple as that.

[Yato__]

Im dying... PvE people speak about PvP x'D

[OSR]

PvE people coming to the PvP section and are confused why this is a PvP thread. Have no clue but just keep pushing that post counter

As for the question why melee should do countdowns. It really comes down to how experienced one player is. If I see the melee or ranged have no idea about who to burst or keep bursting into defensives after the third countdown, then I will take over as tank.
When I play melee it can get pretty hectic and it's hard to keep track of everything important but I would not want my ranged to do the countdown because I'm not sure if I will be in range in time nor if I (and the WAR - assuming there's one) will be able to apply debuffs to boost my damage.

[whiskeybravo]

PvE people coming to the PvP section and are confused why this is a PvP thread. Have no clue but just keep pushing that post counter

I answered the question before I saw it was in the PvP threads

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