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    Small plot has more usable yard space than a medium plot.

    Title.

    It seems that due to the orientation of where the houses are located small plots have more usable space than mediums and that doesn't make sense.

    Small houses are nestled in the corner of their plot and Medium houses are more centered on the back of their plot.

    The result is a small house has more of an L shape of usable lawn and medium house has usable front space and basically nonexistent side space. More of a U shape.

    I doubt any change will ever come of this, but Medium houses should be placed in the corner much like small plots are.
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    Frankly, I always sort of liked that about medium plots, because I can simply ignore the small side spaces and focus on the front only with the limited items that I have, making the frontyard look less empty.

    But I can see how not everyone prefers that and I was actually quite disappointed that all plots place the house in excatly the same place in regards to the plot.
    I would much like to be able to pick - maybe only from a few options, it doesnt has to be 100% free - where I want any house on any plot.

    Give both medium and small houses the L- and the U-shape option, aswell as one where the house is excatly in the middle of the plot.
    Give mansions the option to either have the frontdoor across from the entery or be sideways to it. Give them a more L-shape option aswell - currently the only one we have is a large frontyard that can end up being sideways to your frontdoor, limiting your decoration-options.

    But its not a call I'd wanna make for everyone! What I'd really like to see would be a few placement-options for each housing type, including L, U and center.
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    I would honestly just like more options in decorating the yard of the houses period. Even when you use up the maximum allotted item space, the front yard can still seem kinda bare.

    If I want to consume my front yard with shrubs and trees, for god sake SE, let me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    I would honestly just like more options in decorating the yard of the houses period. Even when you use up the maximum allotted item space, the front yard can still seem kinda bare.

    If I want to consume my front yard with shrubs and trees, for god sake SE, let me.
    I think that would be to do with not overloading the zone with too many objects, and potentially crashing or badly slowing down computers that can't handle it.

    I know I've had friends comment that their game locked up after entering someone's heavily-decorated house - which is possibly why the game automatically loads you back in outside the house rather than in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I think that would be to do with not overloading the zone with too many objects, and potentially crashing or badly slowing down computers that can't handle it.

    I know I've had friends comment that their game locked up after entering someone's heavily-decorated house - which is possibly why the game automatically loads you back in outside the house rather than in it.
    We're in 2018, and while yes, your reasoning is still sound, I would like us (and SE) to stop using server limitations as an excuse not to upgrade QoL features and just get it done already. Personal computers have features within game to minimize the visual drawbacks and extra stress caused by them to their processors, so, it's not as if that the people who can't handle the extra stress can't simply just lower their own personal settings to ease their computer's overload.

    Stop investing all of your money into your mobile franchises and other superfluous projects and actually start investing money back into your infrastructure so we're not going to be in 2020 in the near future with 2013 textures still in XIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Title.

    It seems that due to the orientation of where the houses are located small plots have more usable space than mediums and that doesn't make sense.

    Small houses are nestled in the corner of their plot and Medium houses are more centered on the back of their plot.

    The result is a small house has more of an L shape of usable lawn and medium house has usable front space and basically nonexistent side space. More of a U shape.

    I doubt any change will ever come of this, but Medium houses should be placed in the corner much like small plots are.
    Not sure if Im misunderstanding, but your title actually implies that the small plot has more physical land space than a medium. Which Im confident it doesnt. The distribution of land space is different on a small vs medium, and that distribution can lead to some interesting layouts, but Im not sure that its as big an issue since the issue is ultimately going to boil down to structure size vs land allotment. Medium sized houses are wider, and sit on a rectangular peice of land as a result, where as small sizes are more square on a square plot.

    They could possibly correct it without adjusting any of the map itself by doing two things: 'Square' up houses and build them vertically, and Allow the buyer to choose where the house is placed on the property (either in set positions or a free floating object that can be placed within the property line, like housing objects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Give both medium and small houses the L- and the U-shape option, as well as one where the house is exactly in the middle of the plot.
    Would probably require a full engine remake, what with using the old 1.0 stuff and how much SE likes to use that as an excuse...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    The result is a small house has more of an L shape of usable lawn and medium house has usable front space and basically nonexistent side space.
    If they ever do decide to change the orientation of the medium houses, I hope it's optional as I like the way they sit right now. The off-center position of smalls always drove me nuts. Different strokes for different folks, though; as long as I can keep mine the way it is now, I don't really care what they allow you to do with yours.

    I would argue that the side spaces on mediums are a far cry from "basically nonexistent." I've used both sides of my FC's medium house. One has a cute little sitting area and the other is where I put the garden plots.
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    medium plot yard feels like its almost double a small plot, just counting the front
    the back bit is borderline useless of course and depending on your model of house the sides can get cramped but should be enough room to fit some things

    one of my house's sides is up against a wall so i don't use it at all and the other has a little seating area beside it so i just put up the various topiary along it as an example
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    If they ever do decide to change the orientation of the medium houses, I hope it's optional as I like the way they sit right now. The off-center position of smalls always drove me nuts. Different strokes for different folks, though; as long as I can keep mine the way it is now, I don't really care what they allow you to do with yours.

    I would argue that the side spaces on mediums are a far cry from "basically nonexistent." I've used both sides of my FC's medium house. One has a cute little sitting area and the other is where I put the garden plots.
    Perhaps FC plots are different than personal plots, but there's no way a garden is fitting on the side areas in my medium house.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
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