Ragnarok: Only EU?

[Jinko]

but a ton of them wont transfer cuz thatd mean severing ties with tons of people they already know
thats gonna be the biggest problem with making it a new server as they have, alot of people will just stay put where they are or transfer to already established servers rather then start anew

Looking at the limited people who visit xivpads as a estimate, ragnarok is looking as populated as some of the other servers.

My poll although extremely limited in number estimates 50% of EU players will move to Ragnarok.

Link to poll - seeing as this thread is getting more attention lol.

True, but then you could just join UK linkshells, couldn't you?

Yea but from my experience playing on Lindblum EU/UK linkshells let US members in and before long your linkshell is no longer an EU/UK linkshell.

At least on Ragnarok everyone is playing in the same time zone and a lot of EU players speak enough English for everyone to communicate.

[Vackashken]

Looking at the limited people who visit xivpads as a estimate, ragnarok is looking as populated as some of the other servers.

My poll although extremely limited in number estimates 50% of EU players will move to Ragnarok.

Your poll means little to nothing (no insult intended). There is another poll out with 50+% not going and 38% going.

Its not a litmus test at all.

[Jinko]

Your poll means little to nothing (no insult intended). There is another poll out with 50+% not going and 38% going.

Its not a litmus test at all.

Yea I already said that its extremely limited, you can't seem to help yourself eh

Edit- Ok so lets round that up to 40% going that's still a decent number.

[Vackashken]

Yea I already said that its extremely limited, you can't seem to help yourself eh

You can't seem to stop being sensitive. Its a bit strange for be because everything I say to you you somehow think its loaded or I'm being aggressive. It's not my nature. Chill, doooooooood.

And yes I did see that - I was simply accenting the "limited" comment. Again though, this means nothing to me. The stranglers should have the chance to start anew. Tag remains though thats ridiculous.

[Rhianu]

Yea I already said that its extremely limited, you can't seem to help yourself eh

It still needed to be explicitly stated. As of now, any estimates of how many EU players will move to Ragnarok are pure guesses and shots in the dark. There's no way of knowing for sure until after the server is up and running.

[Jinko]

It still needed to be explicitly stated. As of now, any estimates of how many EU players will move to Ragnarok are pure guesses and shots in the dark. There's no way of knowing for sure until after the server is up and running.

Goes without saying.

[Rhianu]

Goes without saying.

Except when you make a poll which you try to hold up as evidence. Then it has to be said.

It can be really hard to explain to someone not familiar with FF Online that "over 80% of the population you will play with do not speak your own language" and "half of that 80% speaks Japanese only", which is completely out of reach for 99.99% of French people. Try and sell them a product like that, good luck.

I agree completely. In fact I think one of the biggest reasons WHY the European community is such a small minority in FFXIV is precisely because of that reason. If SE wants FFXIV to be successful in countries that don't speak English or Japanese, they're going to need to make it easier for players to find other people who speak their same language.

[Antipika]

I agree completely. In fact I think one of the biggest reasons WHY the European community is such a small minority in FFXIV is precisely because of that reason. If SE wants FFXIV to be successful in countries that don't speak English or Japanese, they're going to need to make it easier for players to find other people who speak their same language.

I think SE is stuck on the past on that. The average French MMO player pre-WoW era was more "a gamer" than anything else. Usually used to speak English etc. Whoever started to play MMO early is used to English games, only few were fully localized in French and even when they were, French localization was always late (patch / expansion would come after in Europe) so players would often use resources found on NA forums.

Nowadays, your average consumer wants immediate fun. Wants to play a game and not fight with a dictionary to try and be understood. When you jump in a MMO, you want to be able to talk to whoever surrounds you, asking stupid questions at first like "how I do this or that" > get your answer > move on.

When you start XIV at the moment, as a French player, you're not even explained how to make a good use of auto-translate... People around you? Half of them are JP, the rest speaks English. You may find a French guy around only if you're lucky... Check the shout channel? Great! Kanjis everywhere. (early evening EU = end of JP prime).

It really doesn't encourage new players to stay in. Sure once you manage to get a French Linkshell, get people to help you, the game experience can be really amazing. Sadly not everyone will go on a forum first to try and find French linkshells around. Neither will have the luck to encounter someone speaking their own language, during their first hours of gameplay.

Now the main problem are some of the current FR players who still think about themselves more about future players. Since -they- like being mixed all together, they would be willing to go on strike if SE would introduce localized Worlds... To me, I'd be fine if localized servers were introduced, as long as international worlds remain. In a MMO where the population is high, there wouldn't be any issue to have FR/DE/UK/JP/NA only + international server.

Now let's be honest, if something like that happen, we all know how it would end up. Almost all new comers would choose a localized server and pretty certain that lot of JP players would just head over JP only servers as well. It doesn't mean that they are NOT willing to play with other people, but if you can play with someone speaking your own language, playing during your time zone and so on, then you'd just head for whatever is the easiest for you, after all it's a game...

Some company already understood that. SEGA has been separating JP and EU/NA players with PSO/PSU for a decade now. And it works just fine. It also enabled them to have different policies across regions, different business models, etc.