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    Aurturia's Avatar
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    Arturia Crossroads
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 80

    What were we really expecting from eureka?

    I was really excited for eureka to drop way back in March but I was one of the ones who was deeply underwhelmed and backed out almost immediately. And so now I've been reading these forums for the last several months and staying out of the comments since I didn't have a proper perspective on it I thought. But now I'm just wondering what exactly did I think eureka was going to be? I was imagining going there with my friends and picking up dailys we could do as a group, new resources to be harvested, and just generally more things that might matter outside of eureka. And then I realized what I expected was the the isle of Quel'Danas from the Burning Crusade. And maybe that was an unfair thing to expect? I don't know but i wanted to post this somewhere now that the idea is rattling around my mind.
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    Liam Harper
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    I guess I was expecting something like the Timeless Isle from MoP. That was reasonably dangerous especially with low gear, lots of rewards, a healthy mix of group/solo, gathering stuff, world bosses, ect.

    I think Enix's problem is the idea that things need to be 0.01% droprate, highly complex spawn triggers, kill 10000 mobs, with timegates or we'll burn through it in 3 days. You need to find a middle ground with the grind, too much and too little reward and players avoid the content entirely, which is the equivilant of burning through it instantly. You can't say Eureka is grindy to keep players subbed longer when they don't even play it and are more likely to unsub than ever. The length of the grind loses its purpose then.
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    Kaplan Homahru
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    Balmung
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    I was expecting that it wasn't going to be yet another version of Diadem, because they said it wasn't. And then it was.
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    Nol Lac'nala
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    Cactuar
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    They said kind of like Diadem, so I expected nothing and was still disappointed.
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I expected not to take a full minute to kill a monster of my level, with nearly dying unless I popped a potion or used RDM to keep myself healed. To top it off, the exp I gained from killing that one monster didn't feel like it matched the effort into doing it. Trying to make it group intensive right from scratch was not a good move in my opinion and just turned me away immediately.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaplanHomahru View Post
    I was expecting that it wasn't going to be yet another version of Diadem, because they said it wasn't. And then it was.
    Basically, this.

    Diadem failed twice and they redid it a third time.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Astaroth Karnaim
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    Leviathan
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    i think the main thing eureka needs is party sync, that way if youve got friends that arent 20 yet you can still help them get there, beyond that i dont mind the grouping necessary because it does give the hunt community stuff to do constantly and things dont die in 15 seconds to an early puller

    the downside though is if the hunt community leaves to do 5.0 how is anyone supposed to do eureka then? diadem CAN be soloed, eureka cant
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    Genz Kawakami
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    Louisoix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I was expecting the "exploration" that we should have in the regular open-world (Diadem/Eureka shouldn't need to be made)
    We've got some small things, like no flying and some new behaviours for monsters (like elemental detecting by magic)
    And then... nothing.
    Eureka is probably a lot of work, Amenos is really pretty, but it's a lot of energy for nearly nothing. Just the usual fate grind.
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    Last edited by Genz; 10-15-2018 at 01:49 AM.

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    Erilsa Leadleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    I expected most of what it is now but with tomestone bought items weaved into the SB relics.
    I expected to be intrigued enough to finish one pagos weapon but I seemed to completely shut down after 35. I doubt even when I didn't do current extreme/savage that I'd carry on with this. Was surprised I even carried on this far.
    All I'm grateful for is that they keep a decent materia flow going.
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaplanHomahru View Post
    I was expecting that it wasn't going to be yet another version of Diadem, because they said it wasn't. And then it was.
    Pretty much this. It's Diadem except you have to walk now.
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