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  1. #271
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    LastFireAce's Avatar
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    Xitra Lunrise
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    I rather they call my character Male/Female. But whatever float you're boat.
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  2. #272
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Can I try to veer this conversation a bit more towards the original topic by pointing out that, in a world like Eorzea, where physical transition is as easy as drinking a potion before you go to bed, it would be far less of a disruption and far less of an issue than it is IRL. In a world where Fantasia exists, and people can be whatever gender they want to be, nobody's going to be stuck in the "wrong" type of body, so it would be safe to assume everyone's body-type gender is their correct one.

    Which leaves the only people the request applies to being those who don't (or rather whose characters' don't) have an emotional/mental gender at all, and see themselves as truly genderless. It's a different issue, and I believe a far less common one, than being trans.
    Fantasia is not an actual item in lore. It has flavor text because everything requires flavor text. See: http://nunhofthat.tumblr.com/post/12...ck-im-in-japan Specifically:

    1. Would a regular average joe in Eorzea be able to get their hands on a Fantasia potion, it does not appear to be widespread as it is. And if so, is there a reason why it does not appear to be used by people in power/ people with evil agendas?

    A: While the Fantasia potion has some in-world flavor text, it’s mainly meant to be seen as a meta object. For example, you wouldn’t see it’s use, or reference to its use in storylines since in effect it doesn’t actually exist (… So far. You never know if something might change :P)
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  3. #273
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    To go right back to the original post, and what Vaelin actually asked for (with the defensive comments stripped out) is:



    ONE option. Maybe a tickbox hidden in a menu that would make the game insert "they" rather than "he/she" into dialogue referring to their character. That's what I pictured they were asking for when I first read the post.

    Not demanding huge changes and alternate character models.

    Perhaps the issue lies with them not clarifying exactly what they meant by a "gender-neutral option", leaving people to imagine something else entirely.
    ONE option that would require them to alter an ungodly amount of text and wouldnt be viable in every available language to begin with - I dont know about french or japanese (or chinese and korean, if we wanna count those too), but I can tell you that its not possible in german.

    Of course they could choose only to stick to altering the english version, but even then it would still be a massive amount of text that would have to be checked and altered accordingly to serve a very, very small minority.

    The whole wether or not non-binary or more than two genders is real-discussion is actually pretty irrelevant to this.
    I dare to say that its a waste of ressource to put them towards something that only a tiny part of the community is ever going to use.
    Introducing ONE option can easly mean a lot of work for the devs that could be better spend on something else that actually benefits the whole community.
    ...I'm mentioning this before someone brings up stuff like Savage and Ultimate again, because even if a large amount of people dont complete O12S or maybe never even try it, they still benefit from content like that being in the game, in the sense of the devs thinking about new mechanics etc. making the overall game more intresting.

    The overall gain from having this ONE option seems very minimal at least to me - on top of not even being possible in at least one of the supported languages.
    So besides people not wanting rl-plotics and the like in their game to begin with, it also just seems like a waste of ressources to me.

    You know what I'd like to have? ONE option to turn of all flashy lights, including enemy-abilities. And you know why? Because it actually hurts my head, as in physical pain. While I would like to see this option, I also realise that this only affects a rather small amount of people and that ressources spend on that could probably be better spend elsewhere - which is why I never asked for it. Obviously that was my choice and asking usually cant hurt, but before you do, you should think about what asking for your ONE option actually means in terms of workload and overall gain for the community, the game and yourself.
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  4. #274
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    28 painful pages. Notes: 1) some of you need to develop a little resilience, life tends to be relatively unkind, and the majority of people will hurt your feelings out of carelessness and ignorance, but seldom malice. 2) Sometimes there is malice, and usually it doesn't matter what you say at that point. People without souls aren't going to suddenly find one. In other words, there is a sympathetic minority, a hostile minority, and a vast majority who could not care less about niche social issues. I'm not trans, but I am gay and Jewish which makes much of "the internet" (e.g. Reddit, twitter, gaming forums) a relatively hostile place. I've scrapped my fair share, but at the end of the day it's pretty pointless. If I got worked up every time someone accused me of eating Christian babies or plotting the downfall of the white race, I'd probably have an aneurysm. Good thoughts, good words, good deeds are what matters.
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  5. #275
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    You know what I'd like to have? ONE option to turn of all flashy lights, including enemy-abilities. And you know why? Because it actually hurts my head, as in physical pain. While I would like to see this option, I also realise that this only affects a rather small amount of people and that ressources spend on that could probably be better spend elsewhere (...)
    It would actually affect a lot of people. It would reduce the system demand meaning that weaker computers could run the game.

    I would also use that option because, frankly, all the "bang" looks nice, but it makes it nigh impossible for me to understand what the heck is happening if stuff compounds, like several mechanics at once. I literally have no idea what I'm looking at when I watch people doing bosses on YouTube or the like because all of the pointless effects distract me when I am not actually playing.

    So yes. That one option would have a lot more purpose in the game than you think. There's not even any comparison to whatever is suggested here.
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    Greetings, Adventurers!

    Although we appreciate all of the feedback received within this thread, I'm afraid we need to close it at this time.

    We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, and wish you many more enjoyable adventures in Eorzea.

    -=Senior Game Master Emdub=-
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