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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
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    >Calls the thread troll bait
    >Proceeds to defend the topic and blame it on the "mean majority"

    So what does defending troll bait makes you?

    Oh btw, story being political doesn't have anything to do with real life politics. We don't have wars with dragons in real life, and I certainly haven't seen any of the NPCs mentioning Trump. NB doesn't exist in the universe of the game.
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  2. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    The sex/gender thing isn't an opinion.
    The way you claim it works is. Post your proof, since it's your claim btw.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    No, most people do not "make" their language; they just imitate the work that others before them already did. (Some more poorly than others.)

    Only a select few of them are influential enough (usually by pure chance) to effect change.
    Sorry, but you have no clue of how language works. And I'm not saying that most people make their language, I'm saying the people as whole make it. Not because a small group decreed it to be so, and everyone else has to follow (which is what you're trying to push)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Sorry, that isn't how correct/incorrect works. Majority of the class getting the wrong answer doesn't suddenly make them right. Nice try though.
    6000+ years of recorded human history prove it right. Not going to change because a couple of groups on Tumblr decided they wanted it to change.
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  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Sorry, that isn't how correct/incorrect works. Majority of the class getting the wrong answer doesn't suddenly make them right.
    If everyone is getting it wrong, the answer is changed so the majority are right, check out the current definition of 'literally' for a recent example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Sorry, that isn't how correct/incorrect works. Majority of the class getting the wrong answer doesn't suddenly make them right. Nice try though.
    No, it's not how correct/incorrect works. But that IS how evolution works.

    The definitions used by majority are the correct ones while the ones used by minority is at best a dialect, at worst an idiolect.

    It seems you first need to learn what "language" is before you can actually discuss what use of a word is correct and what is not. Though language is not something determined by science, it IS a science in and off itself.
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    The way you claim it works is. Post your proof, since it's your claim btw.
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+the+dif...sex+and+gender

    Educating you of something basic isn't my job. Do it yourself, or don't.

    And I'm not saying that most people make their language,
    If you're saying that about a language, you're saying that about the language speakers, because they're the ones who make it.

    Pretty sure that is, indeed, what you said. Or are you just literally bending the rules of language while you're posting? That's some Forsaken-level stuff right there.

    6000+ years of recorded human history prove it right.
    Not really, no. Most of that history would have also told us the Earth was flat. It isn't indicative of anything really.

    Not going to change because a couple of groups on Tumblr decided they wanted it to change.
    It's funny that you're citing 6000 years of history as a source for your claim, yet apparently you think this is something that originated from Tumblr.


    If everyone is getting it wrong, the answer is changed so the majority are right, check out the current definition of 'literally' for a recent example.

    Literally still has the same meaning. All it's gained is an incorrect usage common enough to the point of being memetic, much like things like "I could care less" or "for all intensive purposes", which are also still incorrect no matter how common they have become to say.
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    I'm all for more options (and I truly don't care as far as this topic goes), if it were to happen, whatever, but...it is highly unnecessary. Seriously. I have a couple friends (family or otherwise) that are part of the LGBT community, and I respect everyone's right for self expression. I just don't see this as necessary at all. What would it accomplish exactly? There are far more pressing matters as far as this game is concerned.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 10-16-2018 at 12:20 AM.
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    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Gamers are sociopaths when it comes to treating people with respect, so just remember that any perceived slight at this suggestion is because they have a closed or empty mind.
    So...you just insulted and generalized millions of people around the world, including yourself since you play games too....then claim other people are the ones with closed minds???? Really??

    Insulting just the people on the forums like you usually do isn't enough for you, you have to go all out and worldwide?

    No one even has to respond to anything you say really, you just discredit and defeat yourself on your own.


    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    My point, since you didn't actually read it was that this thread is troll bait, and was definitely straying off topic into the typical trolling nonsense at the time I posted
    I personally don't care where the thread was going or is going, troll bait or not, that doesn't excuse you to insult and generalize millions of people?? Hello?? Like, where has the common sense gone???


    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Yet you decided to be personally offended
    FYI Kisai, people don't have to be "personally offended" to call out someone's ridiculous statements and bad behavior.
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  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+the+dif...sex+and+gender

    Educating you of something basic isn't my job. Do it yourself, or don't.
    If you can't back up your claims, then don't make them. I don't have to prove your claims for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    If you're saying that about a language, you're saying that about the language speakers, because they're the ones who make it.

    Pretty sure that is, indeed, what you said. Or are you just literally bending the rules of language while you're posting? That's some Forsaken-level stuff right there.
    No, I did. You're the one who claimed I said that each person makes their language:

    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    most people do not "make" their language
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Not really, no. Most of that history would have also told us the Earth was flat. It isn't indicative of anything really.
    Which was overturned by scientific observation and experimentation. Where the scientific proof that sex =/= gender?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    It's funny that you're citing 6000 years of history as a source for your claim, yet apparently you think this is something that originated from Tumblr.
    It's funny that you either have reading comprehension issues, or are trying to ineffectively twist my post. 6000+ years of human history say sex =/= gender. Tumblr says you can be a otherkin, like furniturekin
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  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Literally still has the same meaning.
    It also has an additional meaning.
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    If you can't back up your claims, then don't make them. I don't have to prove your claims for you.
    I'll keep saying what I want, thanks. You don't have to prove them, because 1) it's already been done, and 2) I don't care if you remain ignorant

    Where the scientific proof that sex =/= gender?
    Just about every trans person in existence serves as proof, and there are a lot of them. If you wanna go be a bigot to their faces, hell, I won't stop ya. Karma has a way of paying back its debts in the end.

    It's funny that you either have reading comprehension issues, or are trying to ineffectively twist my post. 6000+ years of human history say sex =/= gender. Tumblr says you can be a otherkin, like furniturekin
    It's good to know that Tumblr is apparently where all your research on the matter comes from. No wonder you think it's a joke.

    Your 6000 years of human history don't really account for squat. We're in the 21th century now; try joining us.


    It also has an additional meaning.

    Nope. Bunch of people using it wrong does not mean it's gained another meaning; it means it's gained a bunch of idiots who literally cannot use literally correctly.
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