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    There are only 2 genders: male and female.

    the system is fine.
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    Woke: Gender isn't real.

    Broke: Eleven pages of "Lol two genders."
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    Quote Originally Posted by xaventh View Post
    No. This thread is garbage.
    I agree actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmemeAmeklin View Post
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    Japanese isn't gendered? What are you on about? They have a ton of different ways just to refer to oneself, let alone others. Wait just a second... World:Goblin?

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    I realise people have strong opinions, but it still boggles me how spiteful some of these posts are.

    Even if you disagree with the idea of it yourself, you can still respect that the other person truly thinks of themself as the gender they claim to be, and address them in the way they ask to be addressed.

    I also find it very hard to believe that people would "choose" to identify in a way that opens them up to such abuse, if they didn't really believe it to be true.

    There's a lot more I could write. Anecdotes. People I know. A history of how I've felt about the issue.

    But the core is: I know some of these people, and they're just people. They're not something 'other' that's less deserving of respect.

    I don't know what to say, but I don't want to say nothing.

    It makes me feel awful to see people talk like they do in this thread.
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    You can already select the gender of the character.
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  7. 10-15-2018 05:51 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    Woke: Gender isn't real.

    Broke: Eleven pages of "Lol two genders."
    Scientifically speaking there are only 2 confirmed genders in humans. The lack of gender is not possible. The word gender is an interesting word, as folks seem to confuse what it's used for. Gender is primarily there to assign masculine and feminine traits upon things. This can be creatures or objects. To be gendered is to be put into a Male or female category based on characteristics ranging from the biological to the physical with biology being prioritized. The current fad of misconstruing the word to fit personal ideologies has been largely rebuffed by the populace at large. This has more or less caused those like yourself and OP to adopt a humorously overblown ego as this idea has been thrown around a number of internet echo chambers where this sentiment hasn't been rightly challenged. When presented with evidence or logic the discussion shuts down and turns into either derision or cold silence.
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    SE won't do it. Not because it might be a controversial subject to many people (remember XIV is a game played by players in many countries and continents) but because the game itself is limited to crawl.
    The character creation screen is too limited and won't allow any other extra option unless SE overhauls its graphic engine and develop a major update to the core of the game.
    Something that I can't see them doing any time soon.
    What they could do however is the introduction of gender-less new playable race. Though I don't know if people who want something like this will agree on the appearance of this race and still they will have to rewrite many quest lines as the game still refers to you as he/she despite how neutral it is.
    It's certainly not a thing that might ever happen. There are other more burning priorities.
    RP can help you circumvent the issue as many of the NPCs you talk with in game don't know what you are inside your pants.
    It's lore friendly.
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  10. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamenkuro View Post
    Scientifically speaking there are only 2 confirmed genders in humans. The lack of gender is not possible. The word gender is an interesting word, as folks seem to confuse what it's used for. Gender is primarily there to assign masculine and feminine traits upon things. This can be creatures or objects. To be gendered is to be put into a Male or female category based on characteristics ranging from the biological to the physical with biology being prioritized. The current fad of misconstruing the word to fit personal ideologies has been largely rebuffed by the populace at large. This has more or less caused those like yourself and OP to adopt a humorously overblown ego as this idea has been thrown around a number of internet echo chambers where this sentiment hasn't been rightly challenged. When presented with evidence or logic the discussion shuts down and turns into either derision or cold silence.
    Sex refers to biology, anatomy, chromosomes and so forth. And the notion of only two sexes ignores intersex people who are an extreme minority to the point a lot of them don't even know they're biologically neither a man or woman until an autopsy is done. Gender refers to societal conditioning, men are the breadwinners, women raise children and so forth. Notions that have been challenged going back at least nearly two hundred years if not further.

    So sex real as there is a material basis for it. Gender, not real as there is no material basis for it.

    Screaming logic and evidence watch Ben Shapiro doesn't mean anything because words have meaning and the meaning of sex and gender are pretty concrete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    Sex refers to biology, anatomy, chromosomes and so forth. And the notion of only two sexes ignores intersex people who are an extreme minority to the point a lot of them don't even know they're biologically neither a man or woman until an autopsy is done. Gender refers to societal conditioning, men are the breadwinners, women raise children and so forth. Notions that have been challenged going back at least nearly two hundred years if not further.

    So sex real as there is a material basis for it. Gender, not real as there is no material basis for it.

    Screaming logic and evidence watch Ben Shapiro doesn't mean anything because words have meaning and the meaning of sex and gender are pretty concrete.
    Not that concrete, sex and gender were pretty interchangeable terms up until relatively recently.

    There are only 2 sexes and intersex people don't change that. Intersex people have a medical condition, not a third sex.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 10-15-2018 at 06:23 PM.

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