Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
Sex refers to biology, anatomy, chromosomes and so forth. And the notion of only two sexes ignores intersex people who are an extreme minority to the point a lot of them don't even know they're biologically neither a man or woman until an autopsy is done. Gender refers to societal conditioning, men are the breadwinners, women raise children and so forth. Notions that have been challenged going back at least nearly two hundred years if not further.

So sex real as there is a material basis for it. Gender, not real as there is no material basis for it.

Screaming logic and evidence watch Ben Shapiro doesn't mean anything because words have meaning and the meaning of sex and gender are pretty concrete.
I literally just explained everything in clear and concise terms. Did you read what I wrote? Gender is very simple concept. Anatomy and chromosomes are just a branch of biology. There is no one devoid of sexual characteristics. You're not really making a compelling statement. You're simply attempting to rebuff mine with faulty talking points. Gender is very real. It's why can refer to ships as women or divide the complicated nuances of plant reproduction. To gender something you generally follow a set structure. Biology>physical make up in absence of biology>opinion. First would be a human, second would be a humanoid robot, and third would be a rubik's cube. The first has characteristics that are clearly defined. The second mimics these characteristics. The third has no defining traits and can be given a gender at someone's discretion because at that point it does not matter. Your idea of gender conditioning is a reference to social gender identities which is where we give actions gender. That also changes place to place and falls into the third category of gendered by opinion. Your inclusion of outliers also does not render gender moot. As these outliers are biologically 2 genders. This is not in any way a killing blow to the definition of gender. In fact it only proves further that biology is the main deciding factor in it's categorical duties.

Anyhow I rambled on. Lemme just summarize. Sex is exclusive to humans and any other biological entity. Gender is used to categorize everything and anything into either masculine or feminine with biology being prioritized in this categorization. To deny the idea of gender is to deny the idea of sex as they are almost identical. Gender simply covers a broader spectrum.