Non-binary option for characters, please?

[cougarel]

This is why we can't have nice things in life and you thought it would be good to bring this to the only calming , less polluted place of recreation we still have.

There has to always be someone to play the "victim" card and the entitlement "me, me, me" .
I agree with more options, this is not the case.

[TaiyoShikasu]

This is why we can't have nice things in life and you thought it would be good to bring this to the only calming , less polluted place of recreation we still have.

There has to always be someone to play the "victim" cad and the entitlement "me, me, me" .
I agree with more options, this is not the case.

I think the ones feeling victimized are the ones who are opposed to something that has literally no effect on them.

[cougarel]

Yes, that's it, not because that it is literally nonsense this wave.
Also there wouldn't be a direct impact on me or others, but the message is pretty straightforward and again, this is a game , it shouldn't be subjected to real life and this has been horsed to dead.

[swiss_Momo]

dear god, no #GetWokeGoBroke

stupid weekend bait threads like this are the reason why the devs will never take the western playerbase serious. (And also why I don't want to associate with LGBT+ despite being trans)
There are only 2 genders, stop trying to compensate your lack personality with made-up special snowflake terms. But at least /v/ will have fun with this thread for a while...

[TimeraiderGaranyi]

Or they change the word "Gender" in character creation to "sex" ...done.
As many genders as there may be, there are only 2 biological sexes. Can't blame anyone for adressing someone a certain way depending on their sex.

But yeah.. as said above, its an awefully small minority and while it might seem easy as the most logical way of their system would be to have the text adjusted per choice thus meaning adding one more choice and selecting a different word there would work.
However i am unsure on how many sentences they have whereby replacing any gender-specific words by a default replacement will make it grammatically not correct anymore. It might be alot more work than we expect it to be.

[Gun-Cat]

Japanese isn't gendered? What are you on about? They have a ton of different ways just to refer to oneself, let alone others. Wait just a second... World:Goblin?

Japanese has, and uses very frequently, a lot of gender neutral terms. You are probably thinking of あたし、僕 and 俺 as terms to refere others or the different ways to call your siblings, but in the end Japanese is very gender neutral. You can actually see it in the tales of the storm, in the english version they included a "The WoL is Male/Female" option, something completely missing in the Japanese versions because it isn't needed seeing that the WoL is refered to as 英雄さん, Hero-san. Granted in the MSQ the WoL certainly is refered to as 彼 or 彼女, he or she at times.

All in all I think the whole debate is very unfair. This is a Japanese game and they simply don't have the same sensibilities as westeners in this regard because their language just doesn't work the same way English does. Demanding to be catered to from another culture in that way is perplexing to me.

[kamenkuro]

Sex refers to biology, anatomy, chromosomes and so forth. And the notion of only two sexes ignores intersex people who are an extreme minority to the point a lot of them don't even know they're biologically neither a man or woman until an autopsy is done. Gender refers to societal conditioning, men are the breadwinners, women raise children and so forth. Notions that have been challenged going back at least nearly two hundred years if not further.

So sex real as there is a material basis for it. Gender, not real as there is no material basis for it.

Screaming logic and evidence watch Ben Shapiro doesn't mean anything because words have meaning and the meaning of sex and gender are pretty concrete.

I literally just explained everything in clear and concise terms. Did you read what I wrote? Gender is very simple concept. Anatomy and chromosomes are just a branch of biology. There is no one devoid of sexual characteristics. You're not really making a compelling statement. You're simply attempting to rebuff mine with faulty talking points. Gender is very real. It's why can refer to ships as women or divide the complicated nuances of plant reproduction. To gender something you generally follow a set structure. Biology>physical make up in absence of biology>opinion. First would be a human, second would be a humanoid robot, and third would be a rubik's cube. The first has characteristics that are clearly defined. The second mimics these characteristics. The third has no defining traits and can be given a gender at someone's discretion because at that point it does not matter. Your idea of gender conditioning is a reference to social gender identities which is where we give actions gender. That also changes place to place and falls into the third category of gendered by opinion. Your inclusion of outliers also does not render gender moot. As these outliers are biologically 2 genders. This is not in any way a killing blow to the definition of gender. In fact it only proves further that biology is the main deciding factor in it's categorical duties.

Anyhow I rambled on. Lemme just summarize. Sex is exclusive to humans and any other biological entity. Gender is used to categorize everything and anything into either masculine or feminine with biology being prioritized in this categorization. To deny the idea of gender is to deny the idea of sex as they are almost identical. Gender simply covers a broader spectrum.

[ElHeggunte]

I realise people have strong opinions, but it still boggles me how spiteful some of these posts are.

Even if you disagree with the idea of it yourself, you can still respect that the other person truly thinks of themself as the gender they claim to be, and address them in the way they ask to be addressed.

Well I mean, it's mostly the garbage way the OP decided to present their argument and responses. They're either trying to troll with some low-quality bait or they lack more self-awareness than Neil Breen.

I've seen people in this community make all sorts of inane "suggestions/requests" and people tend to rebuff them with general civility--so long as the OP doesn't come off like a complete berk.

[TaiyoShikasu]

I literally just explained everything in clear and concise terms. Did you read what I wrote? Gender is very simple concept. Anatomy and chromosomes are just a branch of biology. There is no one devoid of sexual characteristics. You're not really making a compelling statement. You're simply attempting to rebuff mine with faulty talking points. Gender is very real. It's why can refer to ships as women or divide the complicated nuances of plant reproduction. To gender something you generally follow a set structure. Biology>physical make up in absence of biology>opinion. First would be a human, second would be a humanoid robot, and third would be a rubik's cube. The first has characteristics that are clearly defined. The second mimics these characteristics. The third has no defining traits and can be given a gender at someone's discretion because at that point it does not matter. Your idea of gender conditioning is a reference to social gender identities which is where we give actions gender. That also changes place to place and falls into the third category of gendered by opinion. Your inclusion of outliers also does not render gender moot. As these outliers are biologically 2 genders. This is not in any way a killing blow to the definition of gender. In fact it only proves further that biology is the main deciding factor in it's categorical duties.

Anyhow I rambled on. Lemme just summarize. Sex is exclusive to humans and any other biological entity. Gender is used to categorize everything and anything into either masculine or feminine with biology being prioritized in this categorization. To deny the idea of gender is to deny the idea of sex as they are almost identical. Gender simply covers a broader spectrum.

"Gender is real and that's why it can be assigned to anything and everything like something that isn't innate almost as if it were a human construct." ~Literally you not seeing how you contradict yourself.

You can type paragraphs and paragraphs all you want, you'll still be wrong, even poking holes in your own arguments, but somehow unable to see it. Like how is a boat female despite having literally no traits that can be described as feminine. Do you see a woman wearing pants and get absolutely tilted because "dresses are for girls, pants are for boys?"

Plant reproduction and sexual reproduction in general refers to sex which has nothing to do with gender because one doesn't need an arbitrary title to reproduce, they need functioning sex organs.

Loosen the MAGA hat and read a book, holy. It's not hard.

[FFgame]

Nobody cares about your gender meat popsicle! Learn how to play your job instead.