PvP and its Popularity

[RareItems]

The tab target system is not a problem, actually all older games (Aion for example) have this and their pvp is still better than this here.

Try playing BDO at least for a month. You'll understand what i'm talking about .

I think if they can at least make a Eureka type Instance where there is no queue times for any class, once inside it's kinda like the Frontlines PVP but teams are divided by servers, add a little siege mechanics from GW2 or Campaign mechanics from FFXI. Put relevant gear equivalent to a relic behind it as a reward or old dyeable raid gear, and people might play it.

[Ilan]

Try playing BDO at least for a month. You'll understand what i'm talking about .

I think if they can at least make a Eureka type Instance where there is no queue times for any class, once inside it's kinda like the Frontlines PVP but teams are divided by servers, add a little siege mechanics from GW2 or Campaign mechanics from FFXI. Put relevant gear equivalent to a relic behind it as a reward or old dyeable raid gear, and people might play it.

I suppose that BDO has probably a similar system as BNS. Both systems have their pros and cons

[OurMom]

Try playing BDO at least for a month. You'll understand what i'm talking about .

If you're referring to it's "hack n slash" targeting, like the other poster said tab targeting isn't the main issue with the PvP here, there's too many mmos with fun PvP that are tab target. If you're talking about BDO's combo system that would call for a complete overall which isn't happening.

Remember you don't slot BDO's skills, you combo them

[Shurrikhan]

PVP is kinda awkward with the Tab Targeting system. Hopefully the next FF MMO will get rid of it maybe xD. Black Desert Online's combat is something they should try getting ideas from .

Personally I love soft-targeting, whereby if you aren't controlling the player camera, you have the option of auto-facing your target if it's within range (+ margin) to make use of said target, and it may even try to maneuver around unintended enemies somewhat.

[GrumbleBeard]

I played a pretty reasonable amount in 2.0/3.0, for frontlines anyway. Had a decently large linkshell for casual pvp, but when feast was introduced it all fell apart and most people moved on to try feast and quit shortly after. After that, the option to queue as a freelancer was added. While this is a great option for easing the terrible queues, it did kill a bit of "grand company pride" that I feel helped form bonds with people. I personally didn't care for the 4.0 changes, the change to pvp gear being only glamour, and all of the feast in general. Now on primal data center, it feels like only maelstrom has real players while the others are mostly bots so there is no enjoyment to doing frontlines anymore.

[Silica-chan]

Now on primal data center, it feels like only maelstrom has real players while the others are mostly bots so there is no enjoyment to doing frontlines anymore.

This can be said for Chaos too except for the bot part. People just don't know how to play / don't care and are mostly just there for the wolf marks (I'm one of this kind, call me bad for it I don't care). The ones really caring about winning mostly join maelstrom which results in their high win ratio.

[Mirch]

This can be said for Chaos too except for the bot part. People just don't know how to play / don't care and are mostly just there for the wolf marks (I'm one of this kind, call me bad for it I don't care). The ones really caring about winning mostly join maelstrom which results in their high win ratio.

bad, np don't care, i also do frontlines for the wolf marks and to teabag people

[Deceptus]

I played a pretty reasonable amount in 2.0/3.0, for frontlines anyway. Had a decently large linkshell for casual pvp, but when feast was introduced it all fell apart and most people moved on to try feast and quit shortly after. After that, the option to queue as a freelancer was added. While this is a great option for easing the terrible queues, it did kill a bit of "grand company pride" that I feel helped form bonds with people. I personally didn't care for the 4.0 changes, the change to pvp gear being only glamour, and all of the feast in general. Now on primal data center, it feels like only maelstrom has real players while the others are mostly bots so there is no enjoyment to doing frontlines anymore.

I'm a flames and I try, I swear! 22% win rate ftl.

[GrumbleBeard]

I'm a flames and I try, I swear! 22% win rate ftl.

Oh I know there are people who try, I feel bad for them because they deserve better.

[Azper]

I only PvP if they put a new glamour item in it that is feasible for me to obtain via Wolf Marks. And even then I just do the daily roulette and get what I get. I'm not competitive, so the overall concept of PvP is lost on me.