i will argue PLD have more disaventage compared that WAR like aoe department, selfsutain/dps cost and MT opener apart of the tank stance swap as you point.

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Which leads to my overall point, I still find myself cringing after reading threads like this. Instead of making the tanks better all around with respect to one another, all people can think of is just cutting off Warrior's limbs to make the other tanks more desirable.
most of my post was around this in particular, i dint say daulban was correct in any moment either.

the most hilarious thing about this is DRKs tried this all this expansion and whe be taking down by mostly main WARs all the time with "DRK is fine" (i dont say you are one of them) and as many times lyth as point there is no posible balance without nerfing WAR.

balance come first, popularity and pick rate come second, Daulban point that WAR is a must have due his toolkit with have nothing to do with PLD popularity and pick rate and he look for equal niches (indepent of how good or bad are his suggestions)for all since WAR domain all the fields.

WARs dint ask for rampart i grant you that, but all the rest they get was asked and granted bcs SE favoritism.