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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Coil gear has been reused as craftable level 50 sets.
    Yes, because original Coil gear wasnt dyeable - they didnt "reuse" it in the sense of recycling it (as they do with dungeon gear that gets reused as crafted gear in the next expansion), but added the dyeable Coil-gear because it was requested. I kinda of recall them making a statment about them saying that adding it as crafted gear was the easiest way to do that.

    With the raid-gear from HW and SB, we have a dyeable version in the game already - I wouldnt hold my breath for them reusing those sets.
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  2. #42
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    its just odd that something as simple as dying gear is an incentive to do a harder mode,
    im not saying just hand out the ability to dye straight away on patch day like savage
    i dno there's a better way to deal with it other then adding more undyable stuff in the game
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Minions, orchestrion rolls, and mounts. Also crafting materials. You know, same thing as extreme primals after their prime.
    also achievements
    Minions are a strong incentive Ive seen people go through a8s just for that wind up faust more then the glamor it has
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    its just odd that something as simple as dying gear is an incentive to do a harder mode,
    im not saying just hand out the ability to dye straight away on patch day like savage
    i dno there's a better way to deal with it other then adding more undyable stuff in the game

    also achievements
    Minions are a strong incentive Ive seen people go through a8s just for that wind up faust more then the glamor it has
    "Its odd that something as simple as a minion is an incentive to do a harder mode!"

    Different people care for different things and different incentives work for different people. The fact that threads like this pop up every now and then clearly shows that people are intrested in dyeing their gear, so even if you consider that something "simple", its clearly something people want and can therefor be an incentive to do Savage.

    I didnt went into A8S for the minion. I went there for a dyeable tankcoat. Incentive "dyeable gear" - clearly worked on me!

    ...I mean... if you want less non-dyeable stuff added to the game - how would you feel about just removing the non-dyeable gear alltogether and just have the NM without drops?
    Because there has to be a better way than taking every reward out of Savage raids and adding it to the NM - Savage raids lost the story (my strongest incentive to raid in Coil), minions are dropping now in NM, songs come from NM, the general gear-model comes from NM, you get achievments for NM just as much as for Savage...
    We're pretty much left with dyeable gear, a mount and a second rounds of achievments (that dont even give a title or something).
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    Last edited by Vidu; 10-11-2018 at 12:05 AM.

  4. #44
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    I kinda doubt anyone is actually doing savage for the dyeable gear that otherwise would not. Although if the gear from normal was dyeable then we'd have the opposite topic where people complain about the better gear having the same appearance. Maybe at best we could have them dye differently, like the different tiers of wedding outfits.
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    I am doing it for the challenge and because the gear is dyable. Most of my motivation for doing Creator for instance, was that sweet sweet Alexandrian Coat of Fending...

    Edit: Remember that glamour is the real endgame, so...
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    Last edited by Lilseph; 10-11-2018 at 12:22 AM.

  6. #46
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    Minion, mounts & dye-able gear need to stay in EX & Savage.

    I'd even go a step further and remove tome stone weapons, letting them only drop in EX & Savage and make the craft version 10 ilvls lower at each tier but I can already seeing people would want my head even though you don't need max ilvl if you don't do Savage or Ultimate.

    I'd even make it so that to get the highest artifact lvl (upgrade) you'd need an item that drops from that tier final boss in Savage but people would shoot me on sight then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    Pretty sure Endgame Raiders care about the ilvl405 and not being able to dye those gear. I know some ppl who have the ilvl405 gear and they just glamoured over it since it's not skimpy/cute enough. If what everyone says here is true, then most top tier guilds with the current savage gear would be using a dyed version of that armor and not glamour over it.

    Savage rewards raiders with a content just for them and ilvl405 gear. Being able to dye an armor set dropped from Normal Alphascape takes away nothing from the raiders lol.
    Its not your place to decide weather SE makes only savage gear dyable or not. They decided to do so, now live with that and do savage or don't. Oh btw there are also enough raiders who see glamour as the true endgame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
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    ive unsync'd both a8s (gavel skip) and a12s gotten my gear what ever sure i understand the the incentive to do it
    but i dont think there should be a problem for having both NM and Savage sets dyable they should just dye differently
    like proto alex is different enough that they should be dyable while savage alex has all extra bits giving that incentive to do (also mounts and weapon glamor always be a incentive) savage for that set of the gear,
    kinda like with Zeta weapons and Nightsteel weapons
    there is still benefits to getting a Zeta weapons after the hard work even with nightsteel being there

    this would also add an incentive to do the normal 8 man raids again

    OP just wants them dye able
    not the exact same set as savage
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    Last edited by Duskane; 10-11-2018 at 01:06 AM.

  9. #49
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    Let me put this in perspective (cause I cant believe this is on page 5):

    "I beat Ultima Weapon regular, so I should be allowed to purchase the glowing UwU weapon. It's not fair that I have to play a harder version of the fight for this piece of glamour I want."
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    Please. Like the Alphascape 1-4 Normal gear and such. Let us able to dye them please.

    At the moment if you want the dyeable versions, you have to do savage raids to get them xD.

    xD

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