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    Was leveling RDM this morning, did MSQ roullete and got the one with the extra cutscenese (the one with Ultima fight), some ppl were able to bypass the cutscenes by "exiting the game and logging back in". Ultima in his 1st and 2nd form and that Hyur guy, they were all dead by the time the cutscenes finished lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    Was leveling RDM this morning, did MSQ roullete and got the one with the extra cutscenese (the one with Ultima fight), some ppl were able to bypass the cutscenes by "exiting the game and logging back in". Ultima in his 1st and 2nd form and that Hyur guy, they were all dead by the time the cutscenes finished lol.
    Report people if they do that. It's a known exploit and against the TOS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Report people if they do that. It's a known exploit and against the TOS.
    Fascinating that even after all these months later, people still hate those cutscenes so much they'll still use exploits to skip them. Even if it's something that can get them actioned.

    Makes you think, hmm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Fascinating that even after all these months later, people still hate those cutscenes so much they'll still use exploits to skip them. Even if it's something that can get them actioned.

    Makes you think, hmm.
    Makes me think people shouldn't run the content if they don't wanna wait through cutscenes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Makes me think people shouldn't run the content if they don't wanna wait through cutscenes.
    And yet, even the threat of a ban won't stop them from doing what they want to do when content is this abysmal. Square's design is the problem here, players gonna play.

    Raise the incentives further, and you'll see more people just flouting the rules.

    Do I personally use this exploit? Not at all; I have better ways to get what I want. I simply understand the core of human nature that would metaphorically cause a player to give this dungeon the middle finger, yet run it anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    And yet, even the threat of a ban won't stop them from doing what they want to do when content is this abysmal. Square's design is the problem here, players gonna play.

    Raise the incentives further, and you'll see more people just flouting the rules.

    Do I personally use this exploit? Not at all; I have better ways to get what I want. I simply understand the core of human nature that would metaphorically cause a player to give this dungeon the middle finger, yet run it anyway.
    so.. because people break laws anyway why do we even have them? ... sound logic there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Makes me think people shouldn't run the content if they don't wanna wait through cutscenes.
    Or maybe they need to go back and do something about those particular duties because the way they are made has been causing problems with the player base since their original addition back in ARR. It's only 2 MSQ duties though out of the 2 Praetorium is the bigger offender as they put enough cutscenes in it to compete with end of chapter CS's that we get advisories about when turning in a step to an NPC. It's like asking people to help move a large object but then telling them they have to watch a 30 minute TV show episode then another once its through the door before moving it the rest of the way to where it needs to be.

    It's not an issue about it being an 8 man non trial duty but more of the issues of putting those long cutscenes into it. If they took out the CS's it would be a good template for a new duty type with 8 members ending out at a lower scaled trials type boss but not have these chained together in a story to be a tiered raid of sorts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Or maybe they need to go back and do something about those particular duties because the way they are made has been causing problems with the player base since their original addition back in ARR. It's only 2 MSQ duties though out of the 2 Praetorium is the bigger offender as they put enough cutscenes in it to compete with end of chapter CS's that we get advisories about when turning in a step to an NPC. It's like asking people to help move a large object but then telling them they have to watch a 30 minute TV show episode then another once its through the door before moving it the rest of the way to where it needs to be.

    It's not an issue about it being an 8 man non trial duty but more of the issues of putting those long cutscenes into it. If they took out the CS's it would be a good template for a new duty type with 8 members ending out at a lower scaled trials type boss but not have these chained together in a story to be a tiered raid of sorts.

    They have already said they'll never put long cutscenes into a dungeon again. I wonder why people fight so vehemently for reworking content they can ignore?
    If you did it , you did it. You're done. You never really HAVE to do it again.
    If you want to do it again, you gotta watch the cutscenes. If you don't wanna watch the cutscenes, why do you want to do it again?
    If you are playing an alt, that's part of the grind to level, you likely have spent more time grinding.
    If you're running the roulette, you gotta watch the cutscenes, people need to get through the content and lots of them actually wanna watch the story.
    If you asked someone to help you move a large object, told them they had to watch the movie but promised a cheeseburger after they were done, they get to decide if the cheeseburger is worth it or not. They DON'T get to accept , and then demand a steak instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    They have already said they'll never put long cutscenes into a dungeon again. I wonder why people fight so vehemently for reworking content they can ignore?
    If you did it , you did it. You're done. You never really HAVE to do it again.
    If you want to do it again, you gotta watch the cutscenes. If you don't wanna watch the cutscenes, why do you want to do it again?
    If you are playing an alt, that's part of the grind to level, you likely have spent more time grinding.
    If you're running the roulette, you gotta watch the cutscenes, people need to get through the content and lots of them actually wanna watch the story.
    If you asked someone to help you move a large object, told them they had to watch the movie but promised a cheeseburger after they were done, they get to decide if the cheeseburger is worth it or not. They DON'T get to accept , and then demand a steak instead.
    Hey now, logic does not belong in any discussion regarding the two MSQ dungeons that are completely optional after the very first time you do them.
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