Skipping cutscenes in MSQ Roulette

[ShinShimon]

I've always been skipping them, since so far it allows me to.

I must have not got to a "no skip" part yet. I'm up to the level 42, or so, MSQs.

I just assumed other people might not like me NOT skipping them, so they might boot me (coming from Wow, this would not seem uncommon...)

However, I've yet to do "roulettes." Is that where they DON'T let you skip them?

So you mean, all this time I could have been WATCHING them?

Don't feel obligated to skip cutscenes on your first run. I've never seen anyone in a party voice anger over someone watching a cutscene, unless it's a long cutscene and it's 100% clear that they've seen the cutscene before (for example, they're playing a class that requires reaching Heavensward content to unlock, and they're in a dungeon that you have to beat to reach Heavensward content). You sure as hell won't be kicked. The story is half of the attraction of this MMO over others, and people understand that. Hell, it's probably a reportable offense to kick someone for watching cutscenes, although it's good etiquette to skip any cutscenes that you've already seen.

Roulettes are one-a-day things that pick a random duty from within a specific category, and give you special bonuses for completing them. If you do Leveling Roulette once a day, you'll level up a lot faster because of the huge EXP bonus. Main Scenario Roulette picks between two 8-man dungeons. Cutscenes cannot be skipped in those two dungeons. Doing them the first time for the story isn't bad, doing them later in MSQ roulette is tedious, although it requires almost no mental effort, so it's a good way to farm EXP or end-game currency while watching videos or listening to a podcast.

[Mizunoko]

There were countless complains from people who wanted to enjoy the final dungeon of the game, but couldnt because its poorly designed and people arent willing to wait for the new person, even if they get compensated with bonus tomes.

And now there are countless of people who complain about not being able to skip the scenes, that in itself renders your point invalid. I agree with you that it's poorly designed in the first place however. The fault here lies with SE for creating such a terrible instance full of too many scenes in the first place. It should have been a solo duty.....common sense really.

[OurMom]

The fault here lies with SE

I think the fault lies with the playerbase. After awhile it would only ever be a 1-3 new people in those runs anyway those 1-3 people expecting the rest of the party to wait on them is the problem. Idk I'm just not that full of myself where if I want to watch something I want everyone to stop and wait on me for a 10 second boss fight.

I'm in the camp of simply not queueing for it, when the wait time gets so long, maybe they'll make those two dungeons optional or do something different.

[MetalSnakeXI1]

You can no longer skip cutscenes because new players were rushed through them, left out of fights alltogether and found themself alone in certain parts of the dungeon with all bosses cleared and the group already on their way out.

There were countless complains from people who wanted to enjoy the final dungeon of the game, but couldnt because its poorly designed and people arent willing to wait for the new person, even if they get compensated with bonus tomes.

If you consider watching the cutscenes a waste of time, I'd advice you to stay out of the Mainstory-Roulette alltogether. You get compensated for the time spent there with tomes or exp and if you dont feel that you get enough for your time: Dont do it.
The only thing that I could see "working" is that you're allowed to skip the cutscene, so you dont have to watch it again, but get put into some sort of "freeze" that prevents you to continue with the dungeon until everyone has finished their cutscene, like bossrooms being locked or something like that.

If a new player doesnt want to watch the cutscenes... well, I suppose they just gonna have to sit down through them once and then never again.

You have an option to skip the cutscenes: Skip the roulette.

Pretty much nailed it.

Tho recently some people found an exploit where if you DCed and came back to the MSQ roullete you were in....you can skip the cutscenes.

someone in the party I was in during roullette did it and he alongside 4 other people fought Ultima Weapon and Lahabrea while half of the team were still watching

In fairness tho,there is a reason endgame encounters in HW and SB are no longer 8 player dungeons with cutscenes as they got cut to 4 player dungeons and one last trial boss

[LalaRu]

Y... get put into some sort of "freeze" that prevents you to continue with the dungeon until everyone has finished their cutscene, like bossrooms being locked ...

Nice suggest, Vidu.
Any sort of "door" that opens only after everyone finishes its cutscene (as it now happens at duty startup), will cut the shortcutters (ah, the pun!).

[Aerlana]

Would be wonderfully really interesting to know how much runs contains a first timer, and how much doesnt, over like 1 month...


(and i dont complain about all this because of the time it takes me... but because of the time i am unable to play )

[Yshnal]

You are not forced to do MSQ roulettes. There's other more efficient ways to get the same rewards, and it was that way even when we could skip cutscenes in there. So, why complain? Just do something else. That roulette is there to help and to relax while doing almost nothing, and some people enjoy running them that way.

I mean, if you're complaining about this it's obvious that you don't care about the dungeons themselves, so you don't need to go there. It's nice to have options, right?

[Caselia]

You can no longer skip cutscenes because new players were rushed through them, left out of fights alltogether and found themself alone in certain parts of the dungeon with all bosses cleared and the group already on their way out.

There were countless complains from people who wanted to enjoy the final dungeon of the game, but couldnt because its poorly designed and people arent willing to wait for the new person, even if they get compensated with bonus tomes.

This is what happened. Minority of vocal players bitching on forums about speed running dungeons to get their tomes and others disparaging players for watching cutscenes so they decided to make everyone suffer. They also prevented speed running dungeons by creating the locks preventing advancements without clearing mobs. Which was also due to vocal complaints on forums over speed runners wanting to rush dungeons to tome cap during ARR.

You are not forced to do MSQ roulettes. There's other more efficient ways to get the same rewards, and it was that way even when we could skip cutscenes in there. So, why complain? Just do something else. That roulette is there to help and to relax while doing almost nothing, and some people enjoy running them that way.

I mean, if you're complaining about this it's obvious that you don't care about the dungeons themselves, so you don't need to go there. It's nice to have options, right?

The option to skip cutscenes would be nice.

[Vidu]

This is what happened. Minority of vocal players bitching on forums about speed running dungeons to get their tomes and others disparaging players for watching cutscenes so they decided to make everyone suffer. They also prevented speed running dungeons by creating the locks preventing advancements without clearing mobs. Which was also due to vocal complaints on forums over speed runners wanting to rush dungeons to tome cap during ARR.

Except this wasnt/isnt about your normal speed running of a dungeon (which is still very possible btw - doors are annyoing, I agree, but most dungeons let you pull 2-3 packs, so you're at the boss in 2 pulls), its about the last two dungeons of the ARR-story, the grand final.
Putting the cutscenes in the dungeon was a mistake and thankfully they never did that again. And they should have probably just turned the dungeons into solo-instances. But a new player who get rushed through cutscenes or forced to skip or just ends up missing every bossfight of their final dungeon, has every right to be upset and complain.

If watching those cutscenes and helping newbies get through the dungeons is making you "suffer", then stay out of those dungeons/roulettes. You get compensated for your time with the tome-bonus. Thats your payment to help a new person finish their story in a some what enjoyable way.

[Yshnal]

Yeah, I skip this roulette. However on occasion these dungeons still show up in mentor roulette, and if that happens I just leave. It isn't worth my time.

And there isn't any other sort of alternative for getting the mentor roulette's rewards.

If you're doing them as Mentor, or doing the Mentor roulette (and thus agreeing to get ANY duty, even those that you hate), then I assume that you want to help other players. In the case of the MSQ dungeons specifically it would include to be nice and wait, which in turn would basically make it pointless to skip any cutscenes.

If that's not the case, as I can seem to notice from your post, I would like you to read again the Mentor description and warnings in one of the Smiths. You're free to use your Mentor status as you wish, but you have no right to complain if you aren't using it as intended. In fact, other people could actually complain about your attitude.

The option to skip cutscenes would be nice.

You have it available. In other duties. There's no rewards exclusive to CM or Prae.

Instead of complaining just don't run them. If your presence is really needed there, that will give SE the message and they'll make further changes or do whatever with these duties (like maybe fixing them for good, making them solo duties, and finally getting rid of all the drama).