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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Aye, basically they couldn't beat the empire, were too cowardly to try and turned on an easy target to vent their anger... their own people, which is rather disgusting. Not to mention they stoned their own to death for siding with the Empire, but when you come to rally them to war, they'd rather stay submissive to the Empire.

    And then the whole wanting to butcher Fordola in the streets and desecrate Zenos' grave while Yotsuyu walks straight into Namai in broad daylight and the Domans can be talked into reason. Not to mention the amount of resentment towards the other nations for not helping them earlier in their war, that they can barely be bothered to fight themselves.
    On the other hand in Doma you have Yotsuyu's messed up backstory, not everything was bright and shiny there either. And it's not like we see only bad from them. Wanting someone like Fordola executed doesn't strike me as evil but realistic, and the mob was then talked down. By an ala mhigan no less. We see plenty of examples of positive ala mhigan characters throughout the story, it's not that one sided.

    And it's not like any other nation is beating the Empire on their own. Heck, before Gaius took advantage of the rebellion against the Mad King ala mhigo was holding off the Empire just fine.

    There's also many years in between the death of Fordola's father and the present. Years of struggle and bloodshed with nothing to show for it can wear down the morale of people. Nor is any society a monolith.

    And as for the desecration of Zenos' grave, that was probably the Ascians given what we know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Well, that is if SE don't surprise us. The clothing so far has had that look to it, and some of the naming conventions do, so I am wondering if the Thavnairian Consulate's design is misleading or whether it is what to expect, since the Garlean Consulate's design is very clearly inspired by what we know of modern Garlean architecture.

    They could also go with a more Indian-inspired design for its buildings, but we shall see. It could be that the naming and clothing are red herrings.

    I could've liked Ala Mhigo, but most Highlander NPCs just piss me off.
    Thavnair thus far seems to be if you threw everything exotic that reminded you of asia/middle east in a blender, and I certainly don’t mind haha.

    Their consulate is actually pretty generic if you look at the surrounding “foreign” buildings. Of the 3 named ones, the exterior of the Garlean building is the only that really matches it's nation's aesthetic. The only unique accessories to the Thav consulate are the small, angular base of the roof’s dome (Ul’Dah’s juts out more to makes it look more rounded) and it's guards' fashion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Thank you for this explanation. I have been baffled as to why the Empire would be interested Ala Mhigo beyond "for the evulz". But then they took over Doma, which is so far away from the Empire, so that means they can just fly armies anywhere?
    They leap frogged across their existing conquered groups to eventually land in Doma. While they can launch war via ship and airship, a very convenient land base would make it easy to regroup, refuel and then push forward from. A sky based attack is hard to defend against. A land/sea/sky package deal is pretty much impossible.
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    Last edited by Rokke; 10-10-2018 at 07:17 AM.

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    I don't think Ala Mhigo really needs a reconstruction effort. I mean a vast majority of the city still stands and could be rehabitable. From what we can see from the Foreign Quarter, the structures all seem to be functional. Compare that to Doma and Doma Castle. The City was destroyed by the Empire and Hein himself destroyed/flooded the castle. Rebuilding Doma seems realistic, but I don't see what needs to be done to Ala Mhigo outside of a new front door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    I don't think Ala Mhigo really needs a reconstruction effort. I mean a vast majority of the city still stands and could be rehabitable. From what we can see from the Foreign Quarter, the structures all seem to be functional. Compare that to Doma and Doma Castle. The City was destroyed by the Empire and Hein himself destroyed/flooded the castle. Rebuilding Doma seems realistic, but I don't see what needs to be done to Ala Mhigo outside of a new front door.
    Plenty needs to be done! When a country occupies another, they make changes against that countries wishes. Instead it would be a reverse construction where one repairs the lives of the people living in the already existing structures.

    There’s also an issue of Garlean nobles who live in the city. How did they go on? Do we keep them as hostages, let the willing stay? Or do we send them back? There’s plenty left to cover.
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    Last edited by DamianFatale; 10-10-2018 at 09:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    WTB Brume reconstruction
    Only if Hilda is involved in all aspects of that story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Only if Hilda is involved in all aspects of that story.
    Definitely Hilda. More reconstruction the better! It’s the perfect system to repair places that didn’t get attended to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Only if Hilda is involved in all aspects of that story.
    you just want to glamour her out of that gatherer set
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    Doma Enclave is honestly my favourite thing out of Stormblood and i hope they continue this in future expansions
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  9. #39
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    While I'd prefer an ala mhigan quarter reconstruction to flesh out at least a corner of the city of ala mhigo, I'd be lying if I said I didn't want more Hilda. Her english voice actress was great and she was a fun character. A shame she didn't get much to do ultimately.
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    Did you play the Lv60-70 machinist quests? Hilda was a major character for that story.
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