Things to think about before you call someone "Bad"

[Hamada]

Reminder what made this thread epic:

I kind of hate this image, as it's pretty much a strawman. In reality, it's more like this:

The original shows one player making moves that are incoherent within the framework of tic-tac-toe, such as drawing a single square in four spaces. Video games, by their very nature, are too rigid to allow a similarly incoherent move to be made. The best you could do is not participate or try to deliberately wipe your group, and it's incredibly unlikely you'll find any substantial number of people who would disagree with a kick in such a situation. However, the appropriateness of the response of the player who originally suggested tic-tac-toe is contingent on the degree of deviation by the other player's actions, which cannot be matched in FFXIV. Instead, what people are complaining about is a combination of 1) failure to carry out intended action or 2) suboptimal intended action. Instances of #2, even when still adequate to clear the content, are generally not exempted from this complaining. This makes it clear that it really is about optimization and a failure to adhere to whatever arbitrary standard the complaining player tries to impose as they try to play the duty police, as it seems that many players think the only reason anyone should play this game is to make an active effort to not just be good enough for the content they're interested in, but to be as good as possible, and they consider any other motivations or ambitions for the game to be invalid.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Yes, people doing ridiculous mental gymnastics to support their "lalala I don't care about the rest of the party" bias is pretty funny.

[Videra]

Can this thread please meet a grizzly end?

[Nestama]

But I need to use my necromancy on something!

[Taebok]

This is why I left WoW.
The community had become nuclear level toxic.
And now I see much of the WoW community is now coming over here.
And still claiming that they aren't the problem with the toxicity.
Well, time to start looking for another low population game I guess.

[Videra]

This is why I left WoW.
The community had become nuclear level toxic.
And now I see much of the WoW community is now coming over here.
And still claiming that they aren't the problem with the toxicity.
Well, time to start looking for another low population game I guess.

Literally just don't visit the official forums, your experience will improve dramatically.

[AxlStream]

Literally just don't visit the official forums, your experience will improve dramatically.

Yeah nobody can say it to your face in-game by fear of being reported. They just take a screenshot of your parses and laugh at them on their Discord servers though.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Yeah nobody can say it to your face in-game by fear of being reported. They just take a screenshot of your parses and laugh at them on their Discord servers though.

Well, they can always kick for difference in playstyles.

[RokkuEkkusu]

This is why I left WoW.
The community had become nuclear level toxic.
And now I see much of the WoW community is now coming over here.
And still claiming that they aren't the problem with the toxicity.
Well, time to start looking for another low population game I guess.

Taebok, the community in this game is excellent. You just need to be respectful, be a team player, and ask for help when you need/want it.

People with attitudes that are more toxic than a Morbol's Bad Breath can easily be seen and weeded out rather easily.

[KaivaC]

This is why I left WoW.
The community had become nuclear level toxic.
And now I see much of the WoW community is now coming over here.
And still claiming that they aren't the problem with the toxicity.
Well, time to start looking for another low population game I guess.

So one forum thread makes you think we have a toxic community over here like WoW? ...
Alright, sure, why not? Just ignore the fact that the good of the community far outshadow the supposed toxicity.