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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Yes you are correct, there is no right way to handle this.
    There is a right way. You can tell someone they're underperforming without being rude about it. There is a massive difference between "sorry we have to kick you, your dps is too low" and "l2p noob dps".

    If a person can't handle any criticism even when it's politely given then that's something they need to address. Not the people dishing out the criticism. Just because you don't like what someone said doesn't mean what they said was wrong or unprovoked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    But all I wanted was to point out why people sometimes become toxic over a friendly advice with good intentions: Pointing with the finger at them in front of other people can be enough for that.
    Unfortunately without being able to send tells in instances the only way to inform someone as to why they're getting kicked is to say it in front of everyone. Some hate getting kicked silently, some hate being publicly criticised...you can't please everyone. The best you can do is be polite.
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    There is a right way. You can tell someone they're underperforming without being rude about it. There is a massive difference between "sorry we have to kick you, your dps is too low" and "l2p noob dps".
    Then they report you because the only reason you can tell if someone's DPS is too low is if you're using a parser which is against the TOS.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Then they report you because the only reason you can tell if someone's DPS is too low is if you're using a parser which is against the TOS.
    Nobody uses parsers, though. They just sense this by feeling it.
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Then they report you because the only reason you can tell if someone's DPS is too low is if you're using a parser which is against the TOS.
    If you're paying attention (and you know the class mechanics yourself) it's not hard to see when someone isn't doing what they're supposed to, and that's without actual numbers. It's made more clear by how slow something is dying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.