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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Jun 2012
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    Example: This healer stands still using no abilities for 70% of the dungeon and only uses one spell (Cure 2) They are bad at healing.

    Explain how that is an incorrect assessment or somehow harassment if I give advice on how to play better. Example: Please cast something between heals, you have some dps abilities such as stone and aero that can help the run go smoother.

    Please answer the bold question. Please explain the answer. Your previous response does not allow me to understand your point of view.

    I am simply asking how the definition of "Bad" is incorrect according to you, why you believe it to be so, and what agrees with you in defining that word differently.

    I am also interested in how you perceive the example of "harassment" used above. Was I harassing that person by making the statement "Please cast something between heals, you have some dps abilities such as stone and aero that can help the run go smoother."? Or should that be taken (as it was intended) as neutral advice given because I clearly noticed someone was performing in a way that was not at an acceptable standard? You may assume in this instance that I make the statement once and then leave them to their own devices. In my mind this causes the above incident to not qualify as harassment, as I am not personally attacking the player or annoying them with with unwanted contact later on.

    Is it wrong for me to offer advice such as this, as the person receiving it may be able to infer that they are playing in a way that is objectively "bad"?
    I know I'm not the one you want a reply from, but here we go

    The example you provided is vastly different than just saying "Skivvy, you're bad" or something similar. There is nothing wrong with offering advice. I give advice if something is going horribly wrong (I tend to put up with a wide variety of play before I feel the need to speak up personally), but I've never had someone snap back at me or take it poorly. But then I also to tend to be more wordy (like your example), and maybe toss in an emote for good measure. Tone can be a tricky one to convey with text.

    From the other comments in the thread, it sounds like people are saying that it shouldn't be offensive to just call someone straight out for being bad. Simply telling someone, 'you suck', or 'you're bad' would both be insults given the context. Both may be factual, but it's still insulting to put it that way.

    I think the problem a lot of people have is that they don't realize how they come off in text. Or perhaps they just don't care about offending anyone, as someone mentioned on a page back.. I'm of the opinion that it's really not difficult to show a basic level of civility towards the strangers you're playing with. We're all here trying to enjoy our free time - how about we at least try and be friendly with each other?

    Depending on the fight, I know that sometimes it can be hard to type full sentences, and maybe all you can squeeze out is a few words, but it is still possible to phrase things without inducing knee-jerk reactions from the other party.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 10-13-2018 at 03:19 AM.