Things to think about before you call someone "Bad"

[Liam_Harper]

To me the only thing that matters is how they take friendly advice. Only when someone takes friendly advice and ignores it or returns it with insults and continues playing in a way that hinders the group, would I decide they were "bad". Or if they just start outright with a rude or unfriendly attitude.

If they mess up a few times and apologize, it's fine. If they actually did the mechanic, but misunderstood something it's fine and great they're trying. If they actually had a bad day or felt sick it's fine, I can be sympathetic, that sucks. If they hadn't done that dungeon in ages and forgot it, it's fine, happy to give a recap. New player, that's fine, take the time to get more experience, I can be patient. Anxiety, definitely fine, I understand that and anxious players can do amazing things without any stress.

I can understand where the community comes from in where its frustrating when players don't want to try, but sometimes players get far too agressive against the "bads" and forget slip ups can happen and at the end of the day we play a game to relax and have fun with other human beings, not as a crazy efficiency drive. Too many people automatically assume the other players in their group are idiots who don't put in effort or care, the moment the slightest thing goes wrong.

[NessaWyvern]

Things to think about if someone says you're bad:

Am I doing anything wrong? Did I die more than others/consistently get hit by aoes/do mechanics wrong/play my class wrong? If yes, try to fix (practice in practice parties more, get services that reduce ping, practice doing your rotation in lower end duties, like 24man or eureka)

If I am playing poorly, maybe I should do this content with friends/FC instead

If am not playing poorly, then the guy who told me I was bad might be sick and irritable, had a lot of bad runs before, or a jerk. Just think to yourself they are just some random on the Internet who doesn't mean anything to you, and either stay and get the run done, or leave.

[AppleJinx]

Things to consider if you are "bad": Don't be.

[Lambdafish]

1. Are they a new player?

2. Did they recently change their UI/Binds or both?

3. Are they having a bad day or are they feeling sick?

Could be any of these things or more preventing someone from performing well. and to be fair most of the time I find it is.

Why should 7 other people have to deal with that though? None of those things are anyone's responsibility except the player being called bad. Perhaps if people took responsibility for their skill and how they are performing we would have better players. As it stands we have people going on the forums trying to defend bad play and saying "think before you call them bad".

[Reap00]

Before you post a response in these forums perhaps you should remember this is only a video game. Get a grip people. Seriously.

[dotsforlife]

Just give em the ole reliable (Vote Dismiss).

[WitchOfMiracles]

To me the only thing that matters is how they take friendly advice. Only when someone takes friendly advice and ignores it or returns it with insults and continues playing in a way that hinders the group, would I decide they were "bad". Or if they just start outright with a rude or unfriendly attitude.

If they mess up a few times and apologize, it's fine. If they actually did the mechanic, but misunderstood something it's fine and great they're trying. If they actually had a bad day or felt sick it's fine, I can be sympathetic, that sucks. If they hadn't done that dungeon in ages and forgot it, it's fine, happy to give a recap. New player, that's fine, take the time to get more experience, I can be patient. Anxiety, definitely fine, I understand that and anxious players can do amazing things without any stress.

I can understand where the community comes from in where its frustrating when players don't want to try, but sometimes players get far too agressive against the "bads" and forget slip ups can happen and at the end of the day we play a game to relax and have fun with other human beings, not as a crazy efficiency drive. Too many people automatically assume the other players in their group are idiots who don't put in effort or care, the moment the slightest thing goes wrong.

This I so agree

[Daibunnie]

1. Are they a new player?

2. Did they recently change their UI/Binds or both?

3. Are they having a bad day or are they feeling sick?

Could be any of these things or more preventing someone from performing well. and to be fair most of the time I find it is.

1. If you’re at end game doing level 70 dungeons, you’re not exactly a new player.

2. The point of changing the ui is to easily access the tools you need. This is not an excuse to play like garbage.

3. If you’re having a bad day, you should just apologize and leave the party instead of being a burden to the remaining 3/7/23 players.

[Sylvina]

What I meant by bad day was, like an off day where everything feels wrong in game and it affects gameplay. that happens too. not exactly sick but feeling wierd or something.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

What I meant by bad day was, like an off day where everything feels wrong in game and it affects gameplay. that happens too. not exactly sick but feeling wierd or something.

And I refer you back to my initial response. You having a bad day doesn't mean I should have to deal with it. I've had plenty myself, but I either do less demanding content or elect to do something else entirely. Queuing into Alphascape and barely performing your job is simply inconsiderate, no matter the excuse.