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    Player
    ElazulHP's Avatar
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    Inigo Meowtoya
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    It can be frustrating to play with someone "bad", however, who really knows what is going on causing them to be "bad". They could have a disability for all I know or are playing sick taking it easy at home from work or something. It's a good policy to not judge and just shut up and move on with your life.
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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Every player has a duty to strive to do their best. That FFXIV is a game doesn't particularly matter - everybody is paying a monthly subscription fee to access the game's servers and we all have a finite amount of time to live our lives. Nobody is obligated to bend over backwards as to not offend the delicate sensibilities of players who refuse to pull their weight. All criticism offered should be constructive, though I've seen even the most gently worded feedback condemned as if it were the most offensive and toxic speech to ever be uttered throughout the entirety of humanity's existence.
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    Axl Stream
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 90
    So non DPSing healers, Ice Mages, frist GCD trick Ninjas, can I send those all your way and see how miserable you are?
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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    So non DPSing healers, Ice Mages, frist GCD trick Ninjas, can I send those all your way and see how miserable you are?
    I assume that's where they go when I kick them or bail on them, so *shrug*.
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    1. Are they a new player?

    2. Did they recently change their UI/Binds or both?

    3. Are they having a bad day or are they feeling sick?

    Could be any of these things or more preventing someone from performing well. and to be fair most of the time I find it is.
    4. Are they at the good part of Daredevil on Netflix and their attention is grabbed away really hard from the game?
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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    It's a matter of good-sportsmanship. A lot of people seem to be under the impression that they can do whatever they want just because it's a game, yet I guarantee that those same individuals wouldn't dare to sign up to play chess or basketball at a hobby club only to insist on doing it 'their way'. No doubt because they know they'd be laughed at, asked to leave and then kicked out onto their behinds.

    It's only due to the anonymity of the internet that they're so emboldened. Luckily they're not entirely free of consequences and can be subjected to a kick if necessary.
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    Lunalepsy's Avatar
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    Yxiah Eruyt
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    I really don't mind. People are very opinionated sometimes. : )
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    Player OurMom's Avatar
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    Bean Bunja
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 80
    The stuff people come up with to not have to admit they're just bad at a game. Smh.
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    Sigma-Astra's Avatar
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    Soma Kagami
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    1. If it's there first time tanking, healing, or DPSing in a dungeon? Fine. Day 1-3 of new content? Fine. After the third day though, it's a little tiring of hearing the same excuse of "I'm new!"

    2. No, this isn't a good excuse. It's not thing to accidentally forget to place something on your hotbar as I've done that beforehand, but it's another to queue up for normal or harder content and then decide that you want to change your UI while you wait. If you're changing your UI in a way that is going to become detrimental towards how you play because you've messed up your finger's muscle memory, then you should iron out the kinks and practice it first outside of content that would require other people's time.

    3. Never a good excuse. You don't go to work and lash out at people because you have problems at home, or go home and lash out at people because you had a bad day at work either. If you're sick, you should be resting in bed and not trying to focus on XIV. If you had a bad day, it's fine to vent, but that doesn't mean you get to be an asshole about it either.
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    Zephera Mortera
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    Zalera
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    Monk Lv 80
    Sorry Nixxe, but your picture is even more of a strawman than the original. You seem to be saying it's alright to play sub-optimally if content is still cleared, but this neglects the fact that others have to pick up the slack that the sub-optimal player is creating. Nevermind the fact that a lot of mechanics in this game, when stuffed up, can have snowballing effects, especially if they kill someone. It's a lot of unnecessary stress on other players to play in a way that doesn't have cohesion with the team.
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