In Game Voice Chat, Why doesn't this game have it and would you use if it did?

[TheMightyMollusk]

Social anxieties aside, I can live without another round of some random kid throwing racial slurs he doesn't actually understand while insulting my parentage.

[AmemeAmeklin]

I prefer text only for in-game communication with strangers.

Reasons why:
1) Salty gamers who troll to cope with their IRL issues would use it to insult others that much faster
2) do we really want to hear other people breathing into their mics/doing private things when we don't know them at all and are just trying to get our dailies done
3) If you are a female gamer, the likelihood of harassment goes way, way up the second a male gamer whom you do not know can identify your IRL gender. I barely tolerate that from FC mates and guys I know (usually I snarl at them, actually), so the idea of strangers pulling that nonsense makes me want to hack their computers, find their locations, travel there, and set them on fire.
4) Related, if you're a female gamer and you're the tank, the likelihood of some male gamer deciding you don't know what you're doing and either trying to lecture you how to play or just ignoring your directions goes way, way up. Yeah, that's a thing.
5) people annoy me in general, I don't want to hear them
6) social anxiety
7) you can't record it if someone is verbally abusing you, making it impossible for GMs to help you if this type of behavior is going on
8) people talking makes it hard for me to concentrate if I can't completely ignore them

[Fhaerron]

I prefer text only for in-game communication with strangers.

Reasons why:
1) Salty gamers who troll to cope with their IRL issues would use it to insult others that much faster
2) do we really want to hear other people breathing into their mics/doing private things when we don't know them at all and are just trying to get our dailies done
3) If you are a female gamer, the likelihood of harassment goes way, way up the second a male gamer whom you do not know can identify your IRL gender. I barely tolerate that from FC mates and guys I know (usually I snarl at them, actually), so the idea of strangers pulling that nonsense makes me want to hack their computers, find their locations, travel there, and set them on fire.
4) Related, if you're a female gamer and you're the tank, the likelihood of some male gamer deciding you don't know what you're doing and either trying to lecture you how to play or just ignoring your directions goes way, way up. Yeah, that's a thing.
5) people annoy me in general, I don't want to hear them
6) social anxiety
7) you can't record it if someone is verbally abusing you, making it impossible for GMs to help you if this type of behavior is going on
8) people talking makes it hard for me to concentrate if I can't completely ignore them

1) ignore list
2) push to talk (it's always been a requirement when we did 40 man raids in wow)
3) again ignore list
4) once again, ignore list
5) You won't join my ultimate group then
6) mute yourself?
7) again ignore
8) You can always explain this to the group, in progress runs chatter should be kept to an absolute minimum and only talk about mechanics during the fight so everybody has 100% focus.

Many headsets have a mice mute button or you can always use push to talk so you have control when your voice is being recorded or just disable your mic in the voice chat software.

I've had some female gamers who had the harassment thing (happend in Destiny sometimes) I always booted the people who did this and add them on the ignore list so they would never get in our runs again. Never has become a real issue.

It doesn't became a problem if you don't let it.

[AmemeAmeklin]

5) You won't join my ultimate group then

oh no my life is destroyed

[Hamada]

1) ignore list
2) push to talk (it's always been a requirement when we did 40 man raids in wow)
3) again ignore list
4) once again, ignore list
5) You won't join my ultimate group then
6) mute yourself?
7) again ignore
8) You can always explain this to the group, in progress runs chatter should be kept to an absolute minimum and only talk about mechanics during the fight so everybody has 100% focus.

Many headsets have a mice mute button or you can always use push to talk so you have control when your voice is being recorded or just disable your mic in the voice chat software.

I've had some female gamers who had the harassment thing (happend in Destiny sometimes) I always booted the people who did this and add them on the ignore list so they would never get in our runs again. Never has become a real issue.

It doesn't became a problem if you don't let it.

Game does not allow blacklist while in a dungeon. I an not even sure what the point of this post is, it is like you are trying to defend reasons why we can have it when we know it is not happening.

Naoki Yoshida: We do not plan on offering official support for voice chat. To explain that decision, the idea of talking directly to other players with your own voice and making it a requirement to do so will not necessarily be a good thing for beginners and new players and many will see it as imposing pressure or causing them unnecessary stress.

I am personally a veteran online gamer so I completely understand the importance of voice chat but if we were to make it an officially supported feature then there is a chance that some players would start to demand that others use it just because it is an “official feature”.

Of course, we will not be prohibiting external voice chat via Skype etc, so individual player communities can still sort out their own preferred means of communication!

Yoshi-p addressed your "counters" for number 1,2,3,4,5,6,7, and for number 8, that explaing would not matter, see what yoshi-p said, so this suggestion is a clear no, there is no point in trying to counter AmemeAmeklin's post

[Limonia]

With only third party options for voice chat, while it can be demanded for ultimate, it usually isn't demanded for extreme trials or savage pugs. If there were an in-game voice chat, people would demand it in almost every party finder content.

I personally already have a hard time talking to other people irl. But talking to strangers in a game would be even worse for me. Not everyone can do something like that. So I like that there is a great option with discord for those who want to use voice chat, but there is no forced in-game option. So I'm happy that there is none.

[Fhaerron]

Game does not allow blacklist while in a dungeon. I an not even sure what the point of this post is, it is like you are trying to defend reasons why we can have it when we know it is not happening.



Yoshi-p addressed your "counters" for number 1,2,3,4,5,6,7, and for number 8, that explaing would not matter, see what yoshi-p said, so this suggestion is a clear no, there is no point in trying to counter AmemeAmeklin's post

And all what he said doesn't affect me since I have Discord anyway.

The thing is for people who're on Playstation, they do not have discord they have to use their phone or laptop or w/e. At the start of SB there where 2 people in my group who were on Playstation, one had his laptop with headset and the other used his phone with headset, they cannot use push to talk and cannot enjoy the music of the game since it would be send in the mic all the time.

I'd be annoyed if I was a Playstation player and I'd feel as they rub it off as 'wrong platform' and that I should get PC version.

How does a Playstation user clear ultimate when the other 7 players are on PC and using Discord and the Playstation user won't/don't have phone or laptop with discord?

[Paladinleeds]

How does a Playstation user clear ultimate when the other 7 players are on PC and using Discord and the Playstation user won't/don't have phone or laptop with discord?

Then you get Sony to add support for Discord on their platform, or allow third party devs to do it. With regards to Xbox One, I know a third party Discord app is being made (an extension of the Windows Phone app actually), and actually have spoken with the developer. There you go, problem solved. Square Enix's servers are already running on false hopes and dashed dreams as is, let's not add voice chat on top of it as well (since they adamantly refuse to upgrade their infrastructure to a point that would be required for VC).

[TalithaSolarien]

How does a Playstation user clear ultimate when the other 7 players are on PC and using Discord and the Playstation user won't/don't have phone or laptop with discord?

You can do this, but it requires a PC/phone for Discord and a little hardware audio mixer (I got one for €30) to mix the sound from Discord and the Playstation together. Not very elegant but possible if you really want to do this.

[Sigma-Astra]

How does a Playstation user clear ultimate when the other 7 players are on PC and using Discord and the Playstation user won't/don't have phone or laptop with discord?

Easy, get a phone or a laptop. I mean, I don't know how it is for you, but I literally do not know a single person who does not have a personal smartphone at the very least besides the elderly who sometimes still like to use those "pay-as-you-go" flip phones. The person who is playing on a PlayStation 4 would have either a laptop or a smartphone easily in this day and age, if not both outright.

We do live in a technology heavy era now and the only people being left behind on it are the baby boomers mostly. And it's rare to find a baby boomer who actively plays on a PC or PS4, let alone XIV.