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  1. #41
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    Tempest222's Avatar
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    I mean people already have third party options for voice chat, and people that are doing content that’s made easier with voice chat are already using it. Most of the game content doesn’t not require/would not be improved upon by having integrated vc anyway. Personally having people expect vc in casual content would just be stressful to me.
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  2. #42
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    I'm gonna have to roll with the no crowd here. Yes, it'll be convenient, but it's not needed. Discord is ubiquitous (yes, it's even so pervasive you can voice chat on a WINDOWS PHONE of all things, I know as I have one and have a third party app for it that supports it), and offers so much more than anything SE could come up with. I'd stick with Discord. Yes, Discord is required for my static I'm creating (to listen at least, you don't necessarily have to talk, but it's preferred!).
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhaerron View Post
    It's already demanded for content, it has always been, there's requirements of some groups that you are a PC player and you can use Discord, just as there are also groups that require you to have DPS meter and parse and that you are above a minimum of x DPS.
    And I am not doing any savage raids, barely do recent extreme trials (and that can be done without vc) and I wont ever step foot into Ultimate. So there is no reason for me to have it outside of wanting to chat with friends. An ingame vc might change that by having people that would even demand this in dungeon runs or maybe even older extreme trials.

    For those that want to use it they can already have their way with Discord, no need to create something ingame.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 10-08-2018 at 06:03 AM.

  4. #44
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    Raela Sarinelle
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    I would not want an integrated chat. I'd rather use whatever third party program that's popular at the time (Discord now), with only a select group of people / for content that merits it. I'm fine with my static, but I wouldn't even use it regularly when I was in a larger FC. I've been on the receiving end of sexism in multiple games, and it's quite unpleasant. People mentioned the trolls, but it's just as bad if not worse when someone gets obsessed with crushing on you. Begging your attention, literally *crying* while asking why you won't accept their gifts, etc..
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  5. #45
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    Yxiah Eruyt
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    People don't use in-game vc anyway. We have VOIP/3rd party software for that.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhaerron View Post
    1) ignore list
    2) push to talk (it's always been a requirement when we did 40 man raids in wow)
    3) again ignore list
    4) once again, ignore list
    5) You won't join my ultimate group then
    6) mute yourself?
    7) again ignore
    8) You can always explain this to the group, in progress runs chatter should be kept to an absolute minimum and only talk about mechanics during the fight so everybody has 100% focus.

    Many headsets have a mice mute button or you can always use push to talk so you have control when your voice is being recorded or just disable your mic in the voice chat software.

    I've had some female gamers who had the harassment thing (happend in Destiny sometimes) I always booted the people who did this and add them on the ignore list so they would never get in our runs again. Never has become a real issue.

    It doesn't became a problem if you don't let it.
    Game does not allow blacklist while in a dungeon. I an not even sure what the point of this post is, it is like you are trying to defend reasons why we can have it when we know it is not happening.

    Naoki Yoshida: We do not plan on offering official support for voice chat. To explain that decision, the idea of talking directly to other players with your own voice and making it a requirement to do so will not necessarily be a good thing for beginners and new players and many will see it as imposing pressure or causing them unnecessary stress.

    I am personally a veteran online gamer so I completely understand the importance of voice chat but if we were to make it an officially supported feature then there is a chance that some players would start to demand that others use it just because it is an “official feature”.

    Of course, we will not be prohibiting external voice chat via Skype etc, so individual player communities can still sort out their own preferred means of communication!
    Yoshi-p addressed your "counters" for number 1,2,3,4,5,6,7, and for number 8, that explaing would not matter, see what yoshi-p said, so this suggestion is a clear no, there is no point in trying to counter AmemeAmeklin's post
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    Last edited by Hamada; 10-08-2018 at 02:50 PM.

  7. #47
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    White Mage Lv 90
    With only third party options for voice chat, while it can be demanded for ultimate, it usually isn't demanded for extreme trials or savage pugs. If there were an in-game voice chat, people would demand it in almost every party finder content.

    I personally already have a hard time talking to other people irl. But talking to strangers in a game would be even worse for me. Not everyone can do something like that. So I like that there is a great option with discord for those who want to use voice chat, but there is no forced in-game option. So I'm happy that there is none.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    ESO had integrated voice chat.

    The two biggest problems I experienced personally were not being able to complain out loud without turning off my mic and a fair amount of sexism.
    ESO only has integrated chat on the Console versions, the PC client has no VO. Very, very few people use the integrated VO on PUGs (that might be an issue the the EU servers). The quality of the game chat VO clients is usually very bad in a lot of games (Destiny, ESO, GoW) so people usually just use the 1st party voice chat unless they really had to (PS4 party chat is 8 players only).

    Using Discord as a PS4 player is possible but not that comfortable. You need a 2nd device (phone or PC) and (if you want to hear game sound as well) some creative cabeling to do so. Not a perfect solution. I can understand SE being weary adding VO support as it is complicated because:

    a) you route everything through their servers, adding more lag and strain to them
    b) route directly between clients and have to deal with NAT issues ...
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  9. #49
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    Not something I want the devs to spend time on. If they did implement it I would turn it of asap, and if I could not turn it of I would seriously quit the game.
    The current third party voip programs are good enough, there we get to decide who we want to talk with and when.
    If an in game system was implemented it would.
    1: Take resources away from other things.
    2: Result in us having to hear some 12-year old a-hole screaming in a squicky voice how they are going to f*** someones mom. And we would hear this a lot all over the place. Better to leave that animal in its natural habitat, CoD.
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  10. #50
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    Only if it is OFF by default and there is an option to turn it on/off.
    I for one would NEVER turn it on in a game like this.. it will be 50% normal, 50% utter garbage :P

    Just stick with Discord etc. i would say
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    Yep ...... This surely would be a good place to place a famous quote...
    But lets not.


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