Eureka is still ruined because of Pagos

[Xau]

me bigges gripes whit pagos comes basically on the capability of reaching pretty much the upper areas of the map, i really dislike that bottleneck what the devs created whit the dragon and a terrible amount of moving agro mobs around forcing you to walk for a good while, either they need to lower the amount of moving agro mobs around that area, or lower the elvl of the upper aetherites so we can move more freely for those who we still are trying to catch up on the elvl, to me, this leveling experience comes off as very frustrating because the majority of the players are already at the elvl cap, and so when you reach the fate area, is already done, or almost done

[LalafellDown]

I’ve been lvl 6 in Anemos since it came out. This might be the first relic I don’t complete. It’s just really boring. I would like to try the next 2 areas, but I can’t due to the boredom of Anemos.

[Hyperia]

there are plenty of people that did not finish leveling in the first part of eureka, such as my self. now even if i try there is barely anyone doing nm trains : /

During my lockout, I saw quite a few level 20 asking for groups for a while and then they went silent. When I checked the zone list, it showed nearly all 30+ players.

Chaining is still very bad exp, the challenge log should become a daily thing and the NMs are unreliable for exp due to their rarity.

I’ve been lvl 6 in Anemos since it came out. This might be the first relic I don’t complete. It’s just really boring. I would like to try the next 2 areas, but I can’t due to the boredom of Anemos.

The lack of a party level sync is completely unacceptable. This content should never have been released without it. I can’t play with my friends or family because of it and leveling just takes too long. This is the biggest problem with Pagos, if you don't ride the wave at the start, your in a very bad position and the lack of the ability to solo makes it just makes it worse. Unlike dungeons, there is no reason for players to go back into the old content to help others.

In Anemos I could take a level 1 on the train and get them to 20 in a reasonable amount of time, yes they would die a lot but that was strangely enough, part of the fun. We would take care of people, your behind? No problem, hop on my 2 player mount and we will get you caught up. In Pagos, sorry, were going places you cant go and with no NM train, its pointless to try. It would take just a few changes to bring back the train to Pagos and it saddens me that they are making content that is divisive rather than inclusive. Please FIX PAGOS before Pyros or its going to be too late.

[einschwartz]

But maybe it would feel better right now if JP players were actually putting some effort in to form a NM train. Literally 90% of the instance players are gathered at the aetheryte in Icepoint. Full instance btw, 144 players. Just absolutely zero effort to spawn anything.

I recently relocate from NA dc to JP. When I hopped into Eureka to cap my tomes, this trend really shocked me as I'm so used to joining and conducting NM trains while I was in Primal dc. I miss the train now.

[Hyperia]

I recently relocate from NA dc to JP. When I hopped into Eureka to cap my tomes, this trend really shocked me as I'm so used to joining and conducting NM trains while I was in Primal dc. I miss the train now.

I will say this, it is probably the most efficient way of playing Eureka right now but it doesn't sound like fun. I would rather they adjust the NMs to spawn only when their triggers are met and that the triggers are fairly easy to unlock with a massive mob of 144 players in say, 5 to 10 minutes. No crazy tricks, just simple and easy triggers. It will still take time to get the relic but since were forced to do relic as massive groups and not solo or 4 player content, they need to make it easy and fun. Let us bring in a low level character so they may earn exp, that's another reason to do Eureka. Outside the relic, there is no other reason. EXP would bring some people in if its like Anemos and not like Pagos.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

Also who was asking for the exit to be more visible?

Well, considering the multiple topics about how few people are in Pagos these days, I'm guessing a lot of people really wanted out.

me bigges gripes whit pagos comes basically on the capability of reaching pretty much the upper areas of the map, i really dislike that bottleneck what the devs created whit the dragon and a terrible amount of moving agro mobs around forcing you to walk for a good while, either they need to lower the amount of moving agro mobs around that area, or lower the elvl of the upper aetherites so we can move more freely for those who we still are trying to catch up on the elvl, to me, this leveling experience comes off as very frustrating because the majority of the players are already at the elvl cap, and so when you reach the fate area, is already done, or almost done

The fact that such a long distance bottleneck exists is indicative of the fact that the developers wanted lower levels people to miss the FATEs the higher leveled parties were doing. There's no logic to such spiteful design otherwise.

[Tyverus]

Firstly, let me say that I thoroughly enjoy the relic grind, it gives me something to work towards during my downtime when not raiding. That being said I doubt I will be able to complete this expansions relic weapon due to one simple factor - other players.

The relic weapon is supposed to be ultra casual content that can be completed by the majority of the game's population and it does not rely on your ability to group up with players to do so.

Yes, previous light steps meant you had to complete group content; such as dungeons, trials or raids. But that is all available to you as a single player i.e you queue up through Duty Finder, run a dungeon and, viola, you get light.

The emphasis of Eureka is focused too much on other players. What I mean by this is that is not possible (or very difficult) to get light in Pagos unless you are in a group of 4 - 8 players. I do not have the time, or the patients to enter Pagos, find a group for light farming and get screwed over by another group taking our 'spot' or there not being enough 'spots' available to farm mobs.

[Alleo]

I do believe it was a mistake to put the relic behind content that you cant do solo. Its already hard to complete it now but what will happen with the zones after the launch of the new expansion? I have an ingame friend that recently finished an old relic and after I told her what she needs for the SB one she said that she will probably just never do that and just do the old ones because she wants the weapons as glamour. It really got me thinking on how it will be even possible to do the SB ones after most have gone to the next new thing?

[Hyperia]

The emphasis of Eureka is focused too much on other players. What I mean by this is that is not possible (or very difficult) to get light in Pagos unless you are in a group of 4 - 8 players. I do not have the time, or the patients to enter Pagos, find a group for light farming and get screwed over by another group taking our 'spot' or there not being enough 'spots' available to farm mobs.

I sat in Pagos during prime time for an hour trying to make or find a group, most players in the zone were afk at the main base aetherite and almost everybody else was level 35. There were no groups for anybody that would accept a 32 and I didn't see a single NM spawn. There was no NM train, not even an attempt at making one. I also watched some people try and fail to spawn Louhi during my time. I'm doing my challenge log in Anemos to try to get to 35 but if your not 35 in Pagos, get out seems to be the consensus.

[Ariel_Valmont]

With the changes to gaining the aether for forging the protean crystals, I feel the real bottleneck is the 500 pagos crystals on the second step. You can get enough ice and aether for a weapon in a weekend, but good luck on those pagos crystals.