Eureka is still ruined because of Pagos

[Wissp]

I was late to the whole Eureka thing but I started it on Sept 7th and got the whole thing done in 7 weeks including Pagos weapon and Anemos armor for my WM main.

Is it time consuming, mind numbing, and a bit tedious? Yes it is if you don't like that type of game play, but that's the way this content is compared to the rest of the game, and it will be that way for a while. If it's not for you, it's not for you, just be resigned you are not getting the relic this time or wait till it's made MUCH easier and then do it for the glamour.

Pagos right now is in no way dead. At server peak times that place is hopping with people, heck, I was in there on Faerie at 2 pm EST and there were 122 people in the instance. If you are not seeing anyone, you must have gone in on your server's off times.

Also, Pagos is NOT worth it if you are under 25, it's just not. NO one will group with you and you can't get anything done. At 25 you can at least have the first teleporter to get to the lower level fates in time if you camp out at the crystal. It's not until 30 and you have access to the first upper crystal that you really begin to get somewhere in Pagos. Yeah, it sucks, poor design and all that, but that is the way it is and it ain't going to change.

The way to do it, level up in Anemos and use log exp to get to 25. Once there, try to get that REALLY nice fate exp in Pagos from the lower fates which will speed your way to 30 faster, then start participating in the upper fates, (30 to 32 goes fast), and before you know it, you will be 35. By then you will probably have most of your Pagos crystals and a fair amount of light. Then just grind for the rest till you have your weapon if you want it.

[Lastelli]

I supposed farming AS1 for light during HW non-stop was a much more quality content, right?

Not sure, I didn't farm A1S for my hw relic. I just played the game normally and the relic came as a result. But at the very least A1S had mechanics, so I suppose this makes it higher quality.

[XiXiQ]

Once more, I'm not defending Eureka but to me is clear like the sky that a lot of the hate after nerfs comes from people that no longer can AFK as the did with Anemos.

You are missing the actual problem. ALL YOU CAN DO is AFK. Nothing in PF to join, no-one to join when you get in there. You can't do anything without a group, and you can rarely find one. Your only other option is going solo and ending up dead and de-levelled.


people do not WANT to AFK, they are forced into it. I've lost count of the amount of times I've gone in there and ended up just giving up with not enough people, no parties to join, nothing spawning.

[MuseTraveller]

At that ILvL? XD

You still had to take the 2 oppressors at the same time.
On a side note, you didn't need to spam A1S to get light, you could farm mounts, do your savage runs, alliance runs and still get light. You had a choice.

[swiss_Momo]

personally, I got most of the light for my first anima from Shatter, since I was also farming for the Garo event

[Tint]

I am actually a fan of grinding. I have my first relic finished before they nerfed Pagos the first time and I also farmed the Triple Triad cards and shiver emote. I am currently working on a second relic, need 8 more light crystals.

I really like that they have added grind content. But the design of Eureka is just bad. The exp penalty when people are not at the same level is the main cause why Eureka sucks. It's just too hard to find a party. The train is the only viable option to play this content, because the NMs have a level synch.

Also there are too many different objectives (leveling, chaining, light farm, spawning specific NMs like Cassie, Bunny fates, farming cold warped lock boxes) wich further drives the people apart and makes it difficult to find a party.

They have to channel all players into the same objective / let them work towards all objectives at the same time like the NM train in Anemos did. Also adding level synch or reduce the exp penalty when you are underleveled (like when you are lvl 20 and kill a lvl 30 monster with lvl 30 players in the party you still get at least the same amount of exp a level 20 monster would give you). But honestly I think the whole leveling process in Eureka was a bad idea.

[Araxes]

I just tried Pagos a little bit... Anemos was okay but Pagos woke up my Aion-Thrauma from the endless grind. So i just never entered Pagos again and thus wont ever enter Pyros either.

[Solarra]

While I'm happy for the people who like this content, I still find Pagos horrendous, personally. I don't understand why all the difficulty is loaded towards the lower levels, it goes against the design of every successful game I can think of.

At 35 I can get around the map relatively fast and without too much risk, but even so the grinding for crystals is just mind-numbing. I've met some lovely people in Pagos and enjoyed their company but I haven't enjoyed the actual content or the design of the area at all.
I'm hoping they nerf the light-farm stage as I need 16 more crystals to complete the Pagos weapon. If I'm still facing a huge, long grind and/or Pyros is more of the same, I can't see myself sticking it out.

[Liam_Harper]

The level requirements on the Aetherytes really need to go. It's ridiculous that a lv27 fate can spawn across the map and all the lv27's miss it because they aren't lv30 for the aetheryte.

If you managed to reach either of those Aetheytes on foot as a low level to attune, you deserve the teleport.

[Fynlar]

Compared to Eureka? Definitely not. It uses the least amount of resources (as it's mostly reusing models and attack animations) and apparently only has one person working on making the mechanics (or one person thinks of the mechanics and then the battle team works on it).

Way more people do Eureka than ultimate, regardless of the level of distaste on the forums.