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    Gun-Cat's Avatar
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    M'rin Vhani
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    Balmung
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    I guess nothing much changed with the newest iteration of Eureka and SE's insistence to keep the old content as terrible as they are.

    On the bright side best girl joined World of Final Fantasy, so I guess that is where I will be spending my time now.


    So thank you SE for not making me split my free time.
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    Drako Redwyne
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    Pagos is still ruining Eureka. Bc even when I finish Pyros and my 1 elemental, I’ll have to go back to Pagos to get another. Pagos is still hot garbage and now no one is doing, like most ppl predicted. For shame!
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    Hiroes Libresta
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoon4life View Post
    Pagos is still ruining Eureka. Bc even when I finish Pyros and my 1 elemental, I’ll have to go back to Pagos to get another. Pagos is still hot garbage and now no one is doing, like most ppl predicted. For shame!
    Wha..? ok dude at this point I really think youre just perpetuating this thread to keep it alive...
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    Mansion Viscera
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    Well, relics have always been grindy before the final nerf. Maybe just before 5.0 they will boost light and Pagos crystal drop. The number of people is not a problem as you can spawn and do NM with 8 people, farm solo etc. I would not worry too much about that, but from my experience Pagos has still been quite crowded in the last month, and now even more with Pyros.

    I'd argue that Anemos was "easy" to be appealing and give a chance for more people to step in, and experience Eureka. If you would not like it, you can still end with the first glowy weapon from anemos in a few hours / days and choose not to go on.
    Pagos is the first "hard" grindy step, just like other relics had their own in their own ways.

    I hit level 35 yesterday after 2 challenge logs and a few fates (which is not a lot of effort), but my weapon is far from finished. It's ok, that's the point of grinding.
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    The NM spawn rates in Pagos are still horrible, I went through an entire lockout and saw 4 NMs with 120 people in the zone. We tried and tried but could only get the low levels to spawn. They need to cut the spawn requirements by 75%. A friend said that in Pyros, in a single lockout, you will see all of the NMs and some repeats.

    Please fix the NM spawns in Pagos, you finally got people who want to resume and continue in Pyros because of the hype but we are STILL BLOCKED BY PAGOS.

    Just get over it already, we know you don't like nerfing content but PAGOS = STEPS OF FAITH = We cant proceed

    Its time to let us get to Pyros already and experience this great content you have been telling us about.

    Please...
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    The number of people is not a problem as you can spawn and do NM with 8 people, farm solo etc.
    This keeps being said with zero proof. You can't solo NM's. You just can't. They have too much HP and hit too hard. So basically, you can't do NM's without a group, which good luck getting later.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Kaynneth Menad
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    This keeps being said with zero proof. You can't solo NM's. You just can't. They have too much HP and hit too hard. So basically, you can't do NM's without a group, which good luck getting later.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    you can spawn and do NM with 8 people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    farm solo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo418L4_L10
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    That's exploiting the system not beating the NM.

    A bug I might add, that has been accepted by SE's bug team.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-sync-in-Pagos
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  9. #9
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    Kaynneth Menad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    That's exploiting the system not beating the NM.

    A bug I might add, that has been accepted by SE's bug team.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-sync-in-Pagos
    He's farming light, not beating NM's. What was said was farming light solo and beating NMs as a party of 8. Don't know why you keep mixing both things up.

    Almost 2 months now, no fix, next Eureka segment is out and a much larger chunk of players than the Ungarmaxers probably used that trick (on a non-competitive facet of the game)

    If if they fix it, SE won't do anything to the players, specially not ban thousands of them.
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    Last edited by JohnSpawnVFX; 11-13-2018 at 04:22 AM.

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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I'm...almost...done...with...Pagos. Just five more light.

    But its been a long, weird week of leveling. Starting at 23 and getting two challenge logs done on Monday and then Tuesday. The painful grind to 32 so I could port and not die in Brushtip Gap, due to horrible map design. Watching an instance spend 4 hours killing goats at various times and not getting one spawn. Having an instance yesterday where NMs were popping in 20 minutes or less. We had Louhi pop after just five kills. Getting to 35 and using a Cassie party to back me up when I went for the final quest (and somehow didn't get noticed).

    Oh, and of course, opening dozens of cold warped boxes and getting nothing but materia.

    It was painful, it still IS painful... But its almost over. Just five more light.
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