Shinryu Normal...

[Chiami]

It has been said in the past already (including by me), and I know the White Knights will charge for the attack again in response to this post which I write after another wipe fest in Shinyru NM, with eventually our healers leaving in frustration...

... but please SE, consider nerfing Shinyru normal. It is ridiculous that even a year after this, with people having way higher ilvl I see wipes in there as THE NORMAL STATE OF THINGS.

Most casuals can't do this content unless they echo their way up or get carried -- no matter how much you claim "players have gotten so much better." No, they haven't. The raiders maybe have, but that's 5-10% or such? Meanwhile most casual players do not have the TIME to hone their skills to higher levels, that is just common sense. That's those 3/4 or more who pay for most of the other content with their subs but never touch anything beyond normal dungeons and even struggle with those at times (and that is fine, not everyone needs or even WANTS harder challenges).

Shinyru in it's current state, more often than not, turns into an exercise of "Fail your way to success", if people don't simply leave and you have to try several parties until you get a clear.

And before you start your ad hominems, dear White Knights, I have cleared this content, and even harder content easily and many times over despite my latency of 200+ and lag spikes turning everything automatically into Savage mode, and despite that even helped carry folks who were struggling to their clear... unless I am cursed with TOO many people in a party who simply can't handle the mechanics, which is WAY too often in Shinryu NM. Needing several wipes to clear content that should be just "simple MSQ" is not what I call good game design.

I know quite a few level 70 players who made it a habit to queue for Trial roulette only after removing enough gear to guarantee they won't get Shinryu (and putting it on after entering the queue), because they don't want to deal with that kind of wipe fest and abandons, making it EVEN harder for newbies to get their clear via DF. Is that what you call "works as intended"?

We know by now the devs put mechanics in there which were meant for Ex, and it shows. Most casuals can't handle Ex, so please SE... turn the wipe fest into something casuals can handle instead of failing their way to success or getting carried.

Leave Ex mechanics in Ex mode, for those who can handle it and want the challenge, don't force it onto the entire player base.