Thread: Culling and restructuring skills to make room for 5.0 abilities

Originally Posted by wereotter

Since this job hasn't really been addressed yet:

Monk
Eliminate fist stances, and move Firsts of Fire to a passive trait. Tackle mastery was a joke in the first place. Keep Riddle of Fire as burst window and Riddle of Fire as a defensive cool down. Replace Shoulder Tackle with Riddle of Wind permanently. Also rework Riddle of Earth so the shield you currently get from taking damage applies immediately (since you're not longer getting the 10% damage reduction from being in Fists of Earth) and keep the GL refresh upon taking damage. Add in that GL refreshes every time you take damage while the shield is active.

Delete One Ilm Punch.

Also, wishlist, give us a skill like Aura Cannon so that we're not the only job in the game without a ranged attack.

Tornado kick and purification need some adjustment
Same with sams third eye mechanic
especially seigan that just needs to go doesn't even look cool

My hopes for Sam is it gets a move like pre 4.2 inner release for kenki and a shinten trait that lowers guren cd by 5 secs l

Originally Posted by Duskane

Tornado kick and purification need some adjustment
Same with sams third eye mechanic
especially seigan that just needs to go doesn't even look cool

My hopes for Sam is it gets a move like pre 4.2 inner release for kenki and a shinten trait that lowers guren cd by 5 secs l

True, Tornado Kick and Purification at least got some uses this expansion, but could use another look. Personally, I would like to see Tornado Kick unchanged, but Perfect Balance changed to just instantly give 3 stacks of GL. That way you can use Tornado Kick every time Perfect Balance comes off cooldown as an added DPS move instead of being just marginally viable at the end of a Riddle of Fire burst phase or before a boss jumps.

Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Many a top parse uses Tornado Kick every 30 seconds... It's far from being marginalized.

Personally I just want to see GL apply from Wind Tackle itself, rather than Riddle of Wind. Standardize Shoulder Tackle variants' damage at 130 each, or perhaps 140 for Flame Tackle. Change Riddle of Wind to allow a second dash from Fists of Wind without stun or damage for 10 seconds after using any Shoulder Tackle variant. That way you don't need to pop 4 oGCDs for every TK (TK-FoW-WT-RoW). Also, let Earth Tackle knock self back if the enemy can't be moved, to give it at least some usefulness.

My own personal experience is that the TK every 30 seconds (they're swapping stances to use Riddle of Wind instead of Fire Tackle) is that the DPS increase is only marginal. Yes it's something you want to do if your latency is low enough and getting that minor buff over other monks is important to you, but it's not a massive increase. This is at least from my own attempts to do the same thing. Regardless, if Perfect Balance immediately gave you 3 GL stacks, then there's no need to swap stances to Fists of Wind in order to use Tornado Kick on a regular basis.

Originally Posted by wereotter

My own personal experience is that the TK every 30 seconds (they're swapping stances to use Riddle of Wind instead of Fire Tackle) is that the DPS increase is only marginal. Yes it's something you want to do if your latency is low enough and getting that minor buff over other monks is important to you, but it's not a massive increase. This is at least from my own attempts to do the same thing. Regardless, if Perfect Balance immediately gave you 3 GL stacks, then there's no need to swap stances to Fists of Wind in order to use Tornado Kick on a regular basis.

Okay, but... why would you want to make using TK every 30/60 seconds obligatory? It's disruptive to "smooth" rotation even then, and per 60 it'd lose everything about it that would otherwise make it feel... like TK, all while costing Monk its most noteworthy mechanic.