Thread: Culling and restructuring skills to make room for 5.0 abilities

Furthermore, removing Heavy Thrust and putting the buff on Vorpal Thrust is silly. This essentially makes it another Slashing/Piercing/Blunt, where you will never not apply it, thus rendering it entirely pointless. Just bake the 10% into DRG's overall damage and be done with it.

SAM's Jinpu? MNK's Twin Snakes? ARR/HW WAR's Maim?

Remove MCH to make room for a new gun class.

Since this job hasn't really been addressed yet:

Monk
Eliminate fist stances, and move Firsts of Fire to a passive trait. Tackle mastery was a joke in the first place. Keep Riddle of Fire as burst window and Riddle of Earth as a defensive cool down. Replace Shoulder Tackle with Riddle of Wind permanently. Also rework Riddle of Earth so the shield you currently get from taking damage applies immediately (since you're not longer getting the 10% damage reduction from being in Fists of Earth) and keep the GL refresh upon taking damage. Add in that GL refreshes every time you take damage while the shield is active.

Delete One Ilm Punch.

Also, wishlist, give us a skill like Aura Cannon so that we're not the only job in the game without a ranged attack.

Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

SAM's Jinpu? MNK's Twin Snakes? ARR/HW WAR's Maim?

For DRG it is different.
Heavy Thrust sometimes feels out of place and just baking the 10% into the whole kit or into a trait instead of just giving the buff upkeep to another skill would be the better option in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Kabooa

Consolidating buffs onto something you're going to use anyways is just the first step in getting rid of them.

For SAM and especially for MNK the upkeep of the buffs through their rotation represents the upkeep of the flow of battle, weaving one attack into the next and gaining power through the undisturbed flow of motion and the redirectiong of momentum.
Disturb the flow and the buffs representing the power gain will fall of, it is part of their identity mechanically represented.

Originally Posted by Legion88

Disturb the flow and the buffs representing the power gain will fall of, it is part of their identity mechanically represented.

If you say so, given that the Sam buffs last about 2 cycles without considering refreshes, and Sen/Kenki do the exact same thing.

Originally Posted by Kabooa

If you say so, given that the Sam buffs last about 2 cycles without considering refreshes, and Sen/Kenki do the exact same thing.

Yeah, SAM is a little wierd in that aspect.
The only reason i saw for that long buff timers would be min SkS, fitting Meikyo Sishui for 3 Sen into it and then refreshing all buffs again...
But even for this the timers are way to long and in no way in danger for falling of.
So yeah i'm not sure if my argument really fits for SAM...