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スレッド: Community Health?

  1. #11
    Player
    Penthea's Avatar
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    2014/05/13
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    Gridania
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    Nettle Creidne
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    学者 Lv 100
    Quote 引用元:NikolasCalypso 投稿を閲覧
    I remember how people used to greet each other at the start of a run
    I still get this.

    Quote 引用元:NikolasCalypso 投稿を閲覧
    and chit chat through MSQ cutscenes.
    I only see this in main scenario roulette, other than that people just wait quietly or pull without you.

    Quote 引用元:NikolasCalypso 投稿を閲覧
    Recently, I had someone tell the party they were watching Netflix and wouldn't be dodging any aoe attacks.
    Never seen this. Hopefully it's just a rare thing you happened to come across. What instance was this in? I can imagine it happening in alliance roulette as some people play as if this is what they're doing.

    Quote 引用元:NikolasCalypso 投稿を閲覧
    So what's going on? Is there just a lot more toxic in the player base now or what?
    I think you maybe had a bit of a weird day. I don't find the in-game community to be particularly toxic or annoying on a daily basis.
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  2. #12
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    TaiyoShikasu's Avatar
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    2017/12/14
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    Taiyo Shikasu
    World
    Behemoth
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    吟遊詩人 Lv 80
    The community is a cancer! And I am the barber's blade.
    (4)

  3. #13
    Player
    Mirch's Avatar
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    2014/06/18
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Mirchea Luslec
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    幻術士 Lv 70
    this is unaccaptable! if someone ever told me, that he/she/it would not dodge any aoe, because he might miss a single second of his favourite tv series, well, this would definetly hurt my feelings, and I would rankt about it everyday on all socials I got.

    Really, what a mess.
    (0)

  4. #14
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    Zephanoa's Avatar
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    2014/12/11
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Vaeldus Lunarys
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    戦士 Lv 90
    I think there is a bunch of different things that can be said about the community. I would say that the greater majority is great. Something that I would consider would be that dungeons specifically are repeated and used and tossed content. They are easy to throw away because it's the same repeated instance over and over. Most people just want their tomes/gear/music and etc and to be done. There is a lack of open world community based content as well. Fates are a joke. One and done for a completion or there is zero reason to go back to them. They also severely basic in design and that makes those too awfully annoying.

    To sum it up:
    1) Lack of community based content.
    2) Lack of proper incentivization.
    3) Lack of open world connections.

    Diadem/Eureka was an attempt to fix some of this. Pagos was a terrible variant.

    That's not to say there aren't great parts, because there are... But there isn't much forced interaction which I think could help but it may not be marketable.
    (1)

  5. #15
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    2018/02/20
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    Liam Harper
    World
    Zodiark
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    白魔道士 Lv 90
    Quote 引用元:Speaks 投稿を閲覧
    FFXIV generally has a "carry me" mindset that is reinforced by
    Another one is near infinite rezzes in casual content combined with a very forgiving dps requirement. In WoW if half your party wipes on lfr, as faceroll as it is, you might actually wipe. You get 1, maybe 2 revives total. In ff14 your entire group can individually die 3 times over, then nearly then entire group die again only to be raised by a healer lb3, then kill the boss about 5 minutes slower than average. The only way to really wipe is if both healers and all RDM's die.
    (2)

  6. #16
    Player
    Sylvina's Avatar
    登録日
    2017/05/09
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    Sylvina Eon
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    戦士 Lv 90
    Quote 引用元:NikolasCalypso 投稿を閲覧
    I used to play during AAR then took a break for a while.

    I remember how people used to greet each other at the start of a run, and chit chat through MSQ cutscenes. Now there doesn't seem to be any of that, and a lot more bad. Recently, I had someone tell the party they were watching Netflix and wouldn't be dodging any aoe attacks.

    So what's going on? Is there just a lot more toxic in the player base now or what?
    Was that person a black mage? healers gotta adjust you know! more seriously I still find the community to be mostly very nice and friendly.
    (0)

  7. #17
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    Ryaz's Avatar
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    2015/06/12
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    Mist Ward 21, Plot 45
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    Ryaz Darksbane
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    侍 Lv 100
    I have some good parties, some bad parties. Sometimes everyone is mute, others people joke around. So, it really just depends on who you get.
    (0)

  8. #18
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    miraidensetsu's Avatar
    登録日
    2017/06/15
    Location
    Gridania
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    Character
    Luno Belfi
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    幻術士 Lv 100
    Quote 引用元:NikolasCalypso 投稿を閲覧
    Recently, I had someone tell the party they were watching Netflix and wouldn't be dodging any aoe attacks.
    Honestly, if that happens with me, that guy wouldn't be healed at all. I guarantee that, because I would be the healer.

    And on the 5th minute, I would issue a vote kick on him. After all, he must focus on the netflix show he's watching and that dungeon/trial will be on his way.
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  9. #19
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    2015/08/14
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    忍者 Lv 70
    Quote 引用元:NikolasCalypso 投稿を閲覧
    I used to play during AAR then took a break for a while.

    I remember how people used to greet each other at the start of a run, and chit chat through MSQ cutscenes. Now there doesn't seem to be any of that, and a lot more bad. Recently, I had someone tell the party they were watching Netflix and wouldn't be dodging any aoe attacks.

    So what's going on? Is there just a lot more toxic in the player base now or what?
    Most content is so easy that people watch netflix if they don't want to put in effort, its not nice but no one of them cares.

    Also the FF com is far away from toxic. You may have a handfull of jerks but thats about it.
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    Quote 引用元:Canadane 投稿を閲覧
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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  10. #20
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    Speaks's Avatar
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    2018/09/25
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    Sebastian Iron-eye
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    ナイト Lv 70
    Quote 引用元:Liam_Harper 投稿を閲覧
    Another one is near infinite rezzes in casual content combined with a very forgiving dps requirement. In WoW if half your party wipes on lfr, as faceroll as it is, you might actually wipe. You get 1, maybe 2 revives total. In ff14 your entire group can individually die 3 times over, then nearly then entire group die again only to be raised by a healer lb3, then kill the boss about 5 minutes slower than average. The only way to really wipe is if both healers and all RDM's die.
    This is very true, and actually the difficulty jump from normal to Savage is a stark contrast of itself. If you have average DPS you may actually need nobody to die just to clear the content.

    So it goes from a "carry me" mindset to a "If you are bad early enough in a patch cycle World First Proggers might not being able to carry you" mindset.
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