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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mholito View Post
    Why can't you beat him? Did you forget to heal Hien?
    Having been subject to this bug myself when the patch first came out last year, I can vouch for this being a thing. Sometimes Magnai will outright refuse to enter the 'final phase' of the encounter as outlined by Pepsi-Plunge, and will stay stuck at 1% (if you get him that low), regardless if you did every mechanic correctly. This only happened once to me granted, but it still happened, and when I redid the instance, playing almost exactly the same (save for not placing Y'shtola's DoT on the other guy, which i did the first time), it worked correctly.
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    Last edited by MrThinker; 08-28-2019 at 07:07 PM.

  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    I've beaten it twice. Both times on AST (in stormblood, not ShB), and the second time at near minimum ilvl. You have all of 4 buttons as Y'shtola. Even if you do not play healer you should have ample time to determine what button does what. If you guys have issues with this quest I'll begin to wonder just how you managed to make it this far playing your actual characters.

    Stop being in such a rush. If you're REALLY struggling with this quest then practice it and beat it.
    How about you take your attitude and put it back in the garbage. I have been playing MMOs since they first came out.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Rhoric View Post
    How about you take your attitude and put it back in the garbage. I have been playing MMOs since they first came out.
    Are you keeping Hien healed? After Magnai gets his Vulnerability Down buff, make sure to search for the axe that Hien will Limit Break to give you two a safe spot (there will be a marker that appears next to it). If I remember correctly, there will also be an Active Time Event, and then Y’shtola will do her special Limit Break on Magnai. So it’s basically surviving up to that point. The instance itself is not difficult, but it requires you to pay attention to Hien, heal him if need be, and follow his move when the time is right. If you aren’t doing that, then you will fail.

    That said, I did want to say this: personally, I don’t care how long you’ve played MMOs, and I don’t think that’s particularly relevant here. And the only garbage attitude I see isn’t coming from who you think it is. Perhaps take a second to calm down before you reply next time.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Are you keeping Hien healed? After Magnai gets his Vulnerability Down buff, make sure to search for the axe that Hien will Limit Break to give you two a safe spot (there will be a marker that appears next to it). If I remember correctly, there will also be an Active Time Event, and then Y’shtola will do her special Limit Break on Magnai. So it’s basically surviving up to that point. The instance itself is not difficult, but it requires you to pay attention to Hien, heal him if need be, and follow his move when the time is right. If you aren’t doing that, then you will fail.

    That said, I did want to say this: personally, I don’t care how long you’ve played MMOs, and I don’t think that’s particularly relevant here. And the only garbage attitude I see isn’t coming from who you think it is. Perhaps take a second to calm down before you reply next time.
    Maybe you should drop your attitude also. And how long I have played MMOs is most relevant cause I know how to play. I'm not some newbie. First time I died, I went looking to see what I missed. Second time I tried, did what I was supposed to do, still died. So tried several more times and still died. I have said in my post before We were both full health and still failed. The Axe never broke, I die and he was chained. So like I said, Bug still around.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Rhoric View Post
    How about you take your attitude and put it back in the garbage. I have been playing MMOs since they first came out.
    Whatever you say. I've also been playing them forever. I don't see how that is relevant though. Being rude doesn't seem to increase the probability of you passing this quest.

    If you spent as much time typing angrily on the forum as practicing a MSQ instance you'd have better luck. You don't see me going around calling your posts garbage despite the insults you gave now do you? I'm going to speak purely logical here but out of the 2/2 times I tried and passed this quest I have not experienced this bug. I'm not claiming there isn't one but this quest isn't exactly current content. If the issue was widespread (or more people actually reported a bug) don't you think there would've been a large enough push to see it fixed? Then there's the part where I've yet to fail it but you haven't seemed to be able to pass it? Wouldn't this imply I'm not doing anything wrong but you are?

    I'm not even being rude, just blunt. Spend less time defending yourself from nothing and more time passing a quest that came out the previous expansion.
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    Last edited by Mesarthim; 08-29-2019 at 07:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Rhoric View Post
    Maybe you should drop your attitude also. And how long I have played MMOs is most relevant cause I know how to play. I'm not some newbie. First time I died, I went looking to see what I missed. Second time I tried, did what I was supposed to do, still died. So tried several more times and still died. I have said in my post before We were both full health and still failed. The Axe never broke, I die and he was chained. So like I said, Bug still around.
    I cant seem to find the bug-report you filed on this issue? Because, as you surely know as someone with so much experience with games like this, thats what you're supposed to do in such a case: walking over to the bug-report-section of the forum, filing one and waiting for them to confirm and fix this bug. Not lashing out against other players who are trying to help you by troubleshooting anything you might have missed.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Rhoric View Post
    Maybe you should drop your attitude also. And how long I have played MMOs is most relevant cause I know how to play. I'm not some newbie. First time I died, I went looking to see what I missed. Second time I tried, did what I was supposed to do, still died. So tried several more times and still died. I have said in my post before We were both full health and still failed. The Axe never broke, I die and he was chained. So like I said, Bug still around.
    Hien is supposed to Limit Break the final axe (when Magnai and his axes get the Vulnerability Down buff around ~20% of his HP). You aren’t responsible for killing it—Hien’s AI is. Then you do the ATM, and Y’shtola Limit Breaks Magnai, effectively completing the instance. Did you read the summary of what’s supposed to occur that both Pepsi and I posted? Have you considered other issues, such as not standing in the safe spot? Gear wouldn’t really be an issue for this instance, but situational awareness might be.

    I’ve never experienced this bug being described here, and I’ve done this instance on multiple characters. I may not be an MMO veteran—this is actually my first MMO—but I didn’t have any issues with it on any of my attempts. Not saying it may not exist, but this is the first I’ve heard of it ever being reported. And I was around for the large complaint fest that was the case when Patch 4.4 dropped and this instance was a hot topic around here.

    Take a few seconds to calm down before you reply again. Your aggressive attitude isn’t particularly becoming. Especially since no one is being inherently aggressive towards you.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 08-29-2019 at 07:31 PM.
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  8. #58
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    Only people being aggressive is you guys. I followed all the walk thrus out there and I still failed. I'm not gonna put in a bug report when there have been bug reports put in the past for this as I have read elsewhere on problems with this quest. I ended up paying money to bypass the rest of the expansion cause SE thinks it funny to force us to use the NPC characters in MSQ.
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    Then that problem lies with you, especially since you still seem to be acting defensive for... some reason.

    i'll be sure to take my "garbage" posts elsewhere since you don't like help. If you think your difficulty with Will of the Moon is the "hardest or most annoying" quest then... I have news for you.
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    Last edited by Mesarthim; 09-02-2019 at 10:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Rhoric View Post
    Only people being aggressive is you guys. I followed all the walk thrus out there and I still failed. I'm not gonna put in a bug report when there have been bug reports put in the past for this as I have read elsewhere on problems with this quest. I ended up paying money to bypass the rest of the expansion cause SE thinks it funny to force us to use the NPC characters in MSQ.
    TIL that offering advice is aggressive, but calling others and their posts garbage is not.

    That said, if you dislike NPC-controlled instances... well, you’re in for a disappointment, as they don’t go away with Shadowbringers.
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