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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    You missunderstood me - or merely skipped the part in which I said that I'm not even directly arguing against your suggestion.

    You dismissed a legit concern of someone with "Well, I'm only active during the morning, when no one is around anyways!" which is a pretty weak and bad argument.
    I understand that it would benefit you and your odd times, but most people (as you correctly) noticed dont play at those odd times, but rather during times in which the shout chat isnt so much used by the odd person looking to form a party, but rather by people either being outright annoying for their personal amusment or FC-ads.

    The only thing I am complaining about is your lack of actual consideration for the concerns of other people by basically saying "Well, I dont have this problem, I dont play during peak time".

    (My personal fix for this btw: I just stay out of the major cities alltogether)
    No i wasnt dismissing it. i was saying that if they dont want to see /shout or the spam thereof, there is a function in the game to only see it when you want to. (Which is using the filter and tab system, which is exactly what i do, because i do get 3 days off a week for work and do play sometimes during peak hours so i have seen spam and simply adjusted my chat log to my personal preference.) Which was my suggestion that they do in my post just now.

    Again, i stand 100% behind that connecting the 2 zones of each city (just like Kugane, its not divided by 2 different zones but instead of asking them to connect them physically, just to connect them via the chat channel) would negatively affect no one.
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  2. #12
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    As much as it would be nice to merge the city maps, it’s not as simple as just sticking them together.

    Ul’dah fits together neatly of course, and Gridania is close, but Limsa would need some additional areas built. (eg. the path from the aetheryte plaza that takes you directly up to the Bismarck, but in ‘real space’ there’s a long ramp that you don’t have to manually cross, you just warp to the other end as you move across zones.

    And then there’s Ishgard with its separate music tracks for the two areas.

    Another consideration would be how quickly the zone loads. Warping to Limsa can be quite slow for me, at peak times where there are lots of people at the Lower Decks. Having the other map (and all the people on it) as well would make it worse.
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  3. #13
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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Absolutely not. There is so much trolling in Uldah on my server. Let the crafters, and loners go somewhere quiet.

    Plus this opens its way up to RMT. Don’t think they’re gone still. They have ways to cling the level, and content train, and would love to exploit it through shouts given the chance.
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  4. #14
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    I'm not saying that I disagree with your suggestion - but I disagree with your reasoning here.
    You are playing at times, when not a lot of people are active and there arent many shouts. So you wont be bothered by (more) shout spamming during prime times, because you just dont see that. A person who is more active during prime time (you know, like most people are) can have a total legit concern in regards to shout spamming.

    In Limsa, for example, that occurs mostly in the Lower Decks (at least on my server) - so if you want to be in Limsa, but avoid the spam, you can currently pick the Upper Decks and have your peace.

    Dismissing a concern because you're simply not active during the times most people are, seems more ridiculous to me than having this concern.
    Okay, but to whom would it be a vital concern?

    To that guy standing in Old Gridania who *gasp* now hears a few extra shouts made from New Gridania, rather than conversations being cut short every time one walks from the inn to the market board? What a horror unbroken conversations would be!
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  5. #15
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    Shouting in one housing ward is heard in all housing wards.
    I agree with all but this one.

    Many people go to the housing areas to escape the crowded city hubs and the often very active chat. In some servers, especially any with many huge fcs, having shouts be across all wards has the potential for a lot of spam. I know people can just turn chat channels on and off, but it's tiresome to do that when you switch areas.
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  6. #16
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    SenorPatty's Avatar
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I'm up for city wide chat. If I don't like what I'm seeing on my shout tab, I have at my disposal a million and one ways to filter it out. I just don't see the point of having one half of a city seperated in this manner when the city itself isn't really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  7. #17
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    Sylvina's Avatar
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    Sylvina Eon
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    I would like to suggest that /shout be changed in the following ways:

    -Shouting in Upper Limsa also is heard in Lower Limsa.
    -Shouting in New Gridania also is heard in Old Gridania
    -Shouting in Ul’dah steps of Thal is also heard in steps of Nald
    -Shouting in one housing ward is heard in all housing wards.
    -Shouting in Foundation is heard in The Pillars

    Thank you.

    (Some of are old school and still use /sh to help form parties, and yes it’s worked for me many times.)
    so basically...

    SCREAM LOUDER! I WANT TO REMEMBER THIS!
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