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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    Actually, I “would not be bothered by more shout spam” because I have shouts filtered in my chat log into a separate tab.

    ...(Which I personally don’t think just connecting the two major cities zones would change much of any “shout spam” that you’re referring to....)

    In other words, there is a fix to the “shout spam” you two are complaining about but not utilizing the features already in the game to cater to your personal needs and wants.

    I already have the knowledge of LS/FC’s but seeing as I play at odd times they aren’t as active as the entire playerbase and a simple shout has always helped fill the party. And just combining the zones would only benefit people who use shout to find parties which is a small playerbase yes, but again, implementing it would hinder no one at all.


    (I guess the people who aren’t happy with seeing “shout spam” and not filtering it. But again, that’s 100% their own fault.)
    You missunderstood me - or merely skipped the part in which I said that I'm not even directly arguing against your suggestion.

    You dismissed a legit concern of someone with "Well, I'm only active during the morning, when no one is around anyways!" which is a pretty weak and bad argument.
    I understand that it would benefit you and your odd times, but most people (as you correctly) noticed dont play at those odd times, but rather during times in which the shout chat isnt so much used by the odd person looking to form a party, but rather by people either being outright annoying for their personal amusment or FC-ads.

    The only thing I am complaining about is your lack of actual consideration for the concerns of other people by basically saying "Well, I dont have this problem, I dont play during peak time".

    (My personal fix for this btw: I just stay out of the major cities alltogether)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    You missunderstood me - or merely skipped the part in which I said that I'm not even directly arguing against your suggestion.

    You dismissed a legit concern of someone with "Well, I'm only active during the morning, when no one is around anyways!" which is a pretty weak and bad argument.
    I understand that it would benefit you and your odd times, but most people (as you correctly) noticed dont play at those odd times, but rather during times in which the shout chat isnt so much used by the odd person looking to form a party, but rather by people either being outright annoying for their personal amusment or FC-ads.

    The only thing I am complaining about is your lack of actual consideration for the concerns of other people by basically saying "Well, I dont have this problem, I dont play during peak time".

    (My personal fix for this btw: I just stay out of the major cities alltogether)
    No i wasnt dismissing it. i was saying that if they dont want to see /shout or the spam thereof, there is a function in the game to only see it when you want to. (Which is using the filter and tab system, which is exactly what i do, because i do get 3 days off a week for work and do play sometimes during peak hours so i have seen spam and simply adjusted my chat log to my personal preference.) Which was my suggestion that they do in my post just now.

    Again, i stand 100% behind that connecting the 2 zones of each city (just like Kugane, its not divided by 2 different zones but instead of asking them to connect them physically, just to connect them via the chat channel) would negatively affect no one.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    As much as it would be nice to merge the city maps, it’s not as simple as just sticking them together.

    Ul’dah fits together neatly of course, and Gridania is close, but Limsa would need some additional areas built. (eg. the path from the aetheryte plaza that takes you directly up to the Bismarck, but in ‘real space’ there’s a long ramp that you don’t have to manually cross, you just warp to the other end as you move across zones.

    And then there’s Ishgard with its separate music tracks for the two areas.

    Another consideration would be how quickly the zone loads. Warping to Limsa can be quite slow for me, at peak times where there are lots of people at the Lower Decks. Having the other map (and all the people on it) as well would make it worse.
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Absolutely not. There is so much trolling in Uldah on my server. Let the crafters, and loners go somewhere quiet.

    Plus this opens its way up to RMT. Don’t think they’re gone still. They have ways to cling the level, and content train, and would love to exploit it through shouts given the chance.
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    Shouting in one housing ward is heard in all housing wards.
    I agree with all but this one.

    Many people go to the housing areas to escape the crowded city hubs and the often very active chat. In some servers, especially any with many huge fcs, having shouts be across all wards has the potential for a lot of spam. I know people can just turn chat channels on and off, but it's tiresome to do that when you switch areas.
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
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    I'm up for city wide chat. If I don't like what I'm seeing on my shout tab, I have at my disposal a million and one ways to filter it out. I just don't see the point of having one half of a city seperated in this manner when the city itself isn't really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Sylvina Eon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    I would like to suggest that /shout be changed in the following ways:

    -Shouting in Upper Limsa also is heard in Lower Limsa.
    -Shouting in New Gridania also is heard in Old Gridania
    -Shouting in Ul’dah steps of Thal is also heard in steps of Nald
    -Shouting in one housing ward is heard in all housing wards.
    -Shouting in Foundation is heard in The Pillars

    Thank you.

    (Some of are old school and still use /sh to help form parties, and yes it’s worked for me many times.)
    so basically...

    SCREAM LOUDER! I WANT TO REMEMBER THIS!
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