How can we get more in depth character customization?

[Bahati]

Not to be controversial, but can anyone familiar with WoW explain how they manage class customization yet the same would not work in FFXIV? Or do WoW players push meta and all run the same specs anyway? Are the dungeons/encounters very different than FFXIV so that is why it works? I hear these two games compared constantly and wondered if I might have some perspective as to why FFXIV is so limited when apparently every other MMO has more class diversity.

[Ameela]

Not to be controversial, but can anyone familiar with WoW explain how they manage class customization yet the same would not work in FFXIV? Or do WoW players push meta and all run the same specs anyway? Are the dungeons/encounters very different than FFXIV so that is why it works? I hear these two games compared constantly and wondered if I might have some perspective as to why FFXIV is so limited when apparently every other MMO has more class diversity.

Because WoW isn't worried about making the game fair for everyone, not every spec can clear every raid but every spec tends to have a use even if it's outside of PvE.
And perhaps more importantly none of the specs in WoW have 3-minute 20-button rotations so they're easier to balance and design with customisation in mind.

Look at FFVII there was crappier gear that had better materia slots in the configuration you were looking for.

You mean exactly what XIV does with crafted gear being able to be pentamelded?

[Rysir]

You mean exactly what XIV does with crafted gear being able to be pentamelded?

Not comparable, 7's materia is vastly superior to 14's as it directly gave spells and abilities so when you chose gear for a massive materia slot list you are giving yourself greater coverage and magical power at the cost of weapon power or physical defense.

14 offers no such thing.

[Ameela]

Not comparable, 7's materia is vastly superior to 14's as it directly gave spells and abilities so when you chose gear for a massive materia slot list you are giving yourself greater coverage and magical power at the cost of weapon power or physical defense.

14 offers no such thing.

Unfortunately you can't really do what VII did in a game like XIV. Imagine if tanks needed to equip specific gear or materia to get Rampart lol

[Rysir]

Unfortunately you can't really do what VII did in a game like XIV. Imagine if tanks needed to equip specific gear or materia to get Rampart lol

Being honest, if this game had 7's materia everyone and their dog would be using monster skill materia then pad it with any other materia of their choice. Every job would be part bluemage!

[MageBlack]

You mean exactly what XIV does with crafted gear being able to be pentamelded?

Except materia if functionally pointless in this game compared to FFVII. Can you learn a new spell? Gain a new summon? Enhance a skill?

[Ameela]

Except materia if functionally pointless in this game compared to FFVII. Can you learn a new spell? Gain a new summon? Enhance a skill?

And good thing it isn't because the materia system in VII made every character essentially indistinguishable aside from their limit breaks, you don't want that in an MMO.

I much prefer the way XIV handles materia and how you can customise your stats to your liking.

[Magic-Mal]

And good thing it isn't because the materia system in VII made every character essentially indistinguishable aside from their limit breaks, you don't want that in an MMO.

I much prefer the way XIV handles materia and how you can customise your stats to your liking.

Too bad "customizing your stats" doesn't even happen in this game... the only two stats are Critical Hit and Direct Hit. Everything else is worthless.

[MageBlack]

And good thing it isn't because the materia system in VII made every character essentially indistinguishable aside from their limit breaks, you don't want that in an MMO.

I much prefer the way XIV handles materia and how you can customise your stats to your liking.

Why swim in the ocean when you can splash in a puddle. Different stroke for different folks I guess. Also, what you just described FFVII being bad for is exactly whats happened with roles in FFXIV currently. 6 of one, half a dozen of another...

[Ameela]

Why swim in the ocean when you can splash in a puddle.

The puddle is fun to splash in and I've been doing it for a while so I know it'll remain fun.
The ocean has the risk of drowning, shark attacks, getting lost... plus I've never swam in an ocean so I don't even know if I'll even like it!