Thread: what is it with these damn elitists in this game?

I was in a practice run for susaku extreme, we did a few runs. Now I made a silly mistake near the end and went into the wrong area for the feather phase, now I admit I made a stupid mistake but somebody in the part had the nerve to tell me uninstall my game! who the hell does he think he is? I made a mistake but that was uncalled for.

I hate elitists who deride everyone who isn't up to their level, it's far more important to be a good person in game than it is to be a good player. I doubt this guy is the only person like that, I see the damn party advertisment threatening to kick anyone if they make a mistake. I play this game to have fun, I just wish people would treat each other with respect, I admit I occasionally get annoyed when people can't folloe simple mechanics but I don't insult them, I just give them advice, is that so hard to do?

Sounds like this belongs in the megathread : http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ry.-Let-s-vent.

I'll give you an answer you most likely dont want to hear and that isnt nice: Yes, sometimes it is "so hard" not to get mad at someone in a situation like that.
Just how it is for you right now - but instead of telling that to his face, you've come here to rant about it.

I'm not trying to make an excuse for someone unsulting you or anyone else - thats not okay behaviour, obviously, but under certain circumstances, when emotions run high and everyone is extremly tense because they just want this goddamn clear by now and its so close that they can taste it after long and frustrating practise runs... and then... then, at 2% and everything going well someone messes up and bäm! all for nothing again!
Its not okay to react with an insult, but I can at least understand why someone would just lose it for a second and let emotion take the better of himself.

...and to me it seems a little bit as if your emotions did the same to you - coming here, calling that person in question an "elitist" over one mistake he made. It seems to me like you need to blow of steam just as much as he did.

...so no, insults are always uncalled for and never okay, but I do feel a little like that goes for both sides right now. With both sides being upset about how that run went down and the outcome poorly handled.

"Fun" can also mean different things to different people and helps if you look for those who share your idea of fun. His idea of "fun" might have been finally killing Suzaku after spending the whole evening trying to - and then, even though it was unintional, you ruined that fun for him when it was at his graps.
While your idea of "fun" might include a more relaxed and laid back atmosphere - not being insulted is obviously a reasonable fun-request, that should always be respected though, I'll admit that.
Still... I'd advice you to look for a "static" group of people to have fun with - FC, LS, friends, who share your goals and ideas and who have more fun playing this game with each other than just with playing the game.

...this case just very much sounds like emotions running high when victory slips through someones fingers. Not okay, but probably not said by a super-mean and rude "elitst" (whatever that is) either...

I'm not excusing the crude comment towards you OP, however I also am no stranger to letting emotion get the better of you. That was likely the reason why he/she lashed out at you for the error, and it's also the reason why you started this thread, calling this player an elitist and venting your frustrations. It might even be possible that you will feel you started this thread in haste a little later after things simmer down. That's why I like to go to the tales from duty finder thread. I can post any drunken rant I feel like there as it's fresh off of the stove, and not facepalm the next morning. Think of it as the forum's striking dummy

That said, you also have to wear a thicker set of emotional armor if you want to do EX/savage stuff. You'll do yourself and your party much more service brushing off comments from a player talking out of their butt, and report a reportable offense if it is happening. If the bad vibe is coming from the group in general, then get out of there. No reason at all to stay in a situation like that. Get your clear with players more interested in getting a clear than belittling others because they don't approve of their gameplay, or are beyond their tolerance for mistakes.

After long periods of attempting to do high-end game content without a clear, people *WILL* start losing the rag out of frustration, they probably don't truely mean to be nasty or spiteful but in the heat of the moment one needs to vent.

I've had it with these motherfucking elitists in this motherfucking game!

Originally Posted by Vidu

...this case just very much sounds like emotions running high when victory slips through someones fingers. Not okay, but probably not said by a super-mean and rude "elitst" (whatever that is) either...

Sorry no I disagree. I have been playing mmos for over a decade and even in moments when I was exceptionally angry with someone for how badly they performed I never responded with telling them to uninstall the game. In the past I played regularly with people who said things like that and at this point I don't think it's a coincidence that they were all very unpleasant individuals.

People who tell others to uninstall the game aren't only trying to vent frustration, they are also deliberately trying to make the other person feel worthless. It's one of the worst things you can say to a gamer, in my opinion.