Change Battle Voice Tool Tip for Bard!!!

[Kitfox]

Anything would be nice, like an acknowledgement that they're aware of the issues. Because at this point it still seems like they're completely fine with MCH being the dumpster fire that it is. We've gone pretty in-depth with the feedback too, specifying key problem points and possible fixes for all of them. We've worked hard to document bugs that have needed more than 3 reports to even get accepted (Flamethrower crit/dh bug), Turret bugs, tooltip bugs, etc. It feels like we always have to put in more than twice the effort to even get noticed and then something like this happens.

Like I get it. It's a simple thing and easy to respond to. But god, the disparity just feels so freaking frustrating at this point.

[Fynlar]

Always thought this was nuts. I went ages not realizing Battle Voice didn't affect myself (back before HW, anyway)


Leave the MCH crap out of this thread, it's not relevant.

[Matthew_Fox]

Its hard looking at your own status effects and not seeing Battle Voice on it apparently.

[Duskane]

[Shunittseru]

Leave the MCH crap out of this thread, it's not relevant.

No. Just No!
Bard says one word about any little change - instant answer from community rep. Many bug reports, suggestions and all that stuff. We never received an answer. It took us 3 different bug reports to fix one little bug!

MCH is kinda dead. If we open a thread - no comments, not nothing. Even if many MCH players complain about the same problems. But since there are nearly none MCH players... well.

This likely got a response because it's a simple, easy to respond to question. What are they going to say about any job changes beyond, "We'll pass this along"? Not to mention, Lux even specifically mentions new players, i.e., his response is more to help new players.

To clarify:
It's okay to help new people. But did you thought about leveling mch? There you need alot more help than one little tooltip from a class. I can barly play the class until lv 66. On the other hand: BRD. Play it nicely and have fun. Even with super low level.

And Thats my point. BRD is the most played class ever. And it gets attention, buffs/adjustments. MCH: By far the least played class. On top of that: No attention at all, no buffs/adjustments.
Example from last bug report: Turret made too less dps in Hypercharge. (They buffed it some time ago, but they only changed the tooltip) Instead of giving mch like 10dps more - No. They adjust the tooltip to his old value.

Basically: They poke us with a knife and say: "haha" while we are laying on the ground, instead of helping!

[Seraphor]

I get the feeling they dont know what to do with MCH, and 5.0 is probably just going to add another skill that affects the heat gauge and complicates the rotation even further.

What they need to do is differentiate it from BRD, and give more focus to its MACHINES.
Improve the functions of turrets, maybe add a third one that moves with you (Knight turret) buff their debuffing skills again so that they raid utility is more of a match against BRDs buffs, then they can focus on balancing the existing weaponskills without adding more complexity to the rotation.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

To clarify:
It's okay to help new people. But did you thought about leveling mch? There you need alot more help than one little tooltip from a class. I can barly play the class until lv 66. On the other hand: BRD. Play it nicely and have fun. Even with super low level.

And Thats my point. BRD is the most played class ever. And it gets attention, buffs/adjustments. MCH: By far the least played class. On top of that: No attention at all, no buffs/adjustments.
Example from last bug report: Turret made too less dps in Hypercharge. (They buffed it some time ago, but they only changed the tooltip) Instead of giving mch like 10dps more - No. They adjust the tooltip to his old value.

Basically: They poke us with a knife and say: "haha" while we are laying on the ground, instead of helping!

And what relevance does this have to the question posed? A Community rep isn't qualified to answer questions about job leveling. They are neither in charge nor dedicate any of the development process. They're literally a mouth piece for developers. So while I agree, Machinist below max level is complete trash, you demanding answers from a community rep is the same as complaining to a customer service employee. At least as it pertains to this subject. Unless the devs have something to report, they have no answers for you, not because they don't want to provide them. They don't have anything to worthwhile to say.