5 minute average queue time.

[Gemina]

Making tanks easier to play isn't going to incentivize people to play them. Tank mains typically enjoy tanking, and play these jobs almost unconditionally during their highs and lows. The instant queues are usually viewed as a nice bonus rather than the reason they play the role. Trust me, if the near-instant queues are not enough to get players such as yourself to give a go at tanking, rewards and nerfing gameplay isn't going to do it either.

I believe getting more players to play tank is by making the jobs themselves interesting and fun to play. The aesthetics to DRK alone is a big reason why it still has so many players leveling it and using it in endgame despite the uphill road it has had all of 4.0. PLD mains stuck with it despite their gripes in 3.0, and though I don't play PLD I hear the job is pretty damn good now. Very fun and feels like a PLD. These are just examples off the top of my head.

If you absolutely don't want to use a tank or healer to progress the MSQ, then your next best bet is a buddy who will tank for you or simply just wait things out like all the other DPS players.

Oh, and the average wait timer doesn't mean a whole lot. There have been many times I have seen the timer go well beyond the average time, and I have also the queue pop in far less time than the average when it is high.

[Risvertasashi]

Making tanks easier to play isn't going to incentivize people to play them.

Yeah, tanking already isn't mechanically demanding. It's the responsibility/spotlight/etc people shy away from.

[AxlStream]

Yeah, tanking already isn't mechanically demanding. It's the responsibility/spotlight/etc people shy away from.

So much easier to call out a bad tank/healer than a bad DPS. That is true.

[hynaku]

Healers get it really bad from bad tanks. That is why never play healer anymore because how many bad tanks there are. Once in level 70 dungeon got kicked because couldn't keep tank heal. The tank was in level 60 gear and died faster than could cast a healing spell on them.

[Aerlana]

It literally becomes an hour.

Make tanks easier and more rewarding to play. To wait this long to advance the MSQ, this is ridiculous.

i am really less activ now than 1 year ago. i dont know how is the queue now.
But before, queue for melee was quite low, only range had a long one.
FFXIV get a not so bad waiting time for damages. And mainly due to the fact it is easy to have a heal/tank ready for the basic contents (dongeons, and "normal" primals, even story mode of the raid 8 )

The matter for ALL mmorpg is what?
When the team needs 1 heal, 1 tank and 2 Damages, for no waiting time for everyone you need 25% playing tank, 25% playing heal 50% playing damages. in WoW, 1/1/3 it is nearly same (20/20/60). But we are probably more to a 70% damages...

Sad to say, but the only solution is doing like many people, have a heal/tank ready for "easy" content. SE can only make tanking more attractiv (or healing) but how? I mean it is not only a question of class gameplay. it is a question of what you have to do in the fight... 3 different mind.
Mostly i like to play healer. Not because "gameplay of healing class are those i prefer" but because "what i have to do as healer is what i prefer" . And i think many people think the same.

(and for the "adding more heal/tank. in HW we were 3/3/7 so close to the good % of each... and had this matter)


for many things, i consider solution have to come at least from developpers, but for this matter, only players can solve it. (Devs can only make decision that could maybe, sometime, helps a little the players).
FFXIV is a wonderfull game for this : you can play ALL in one character... so having one of the 3 tank or one of the 3 heal ready for easy content is not so hard...

[Ameela]

The design itself is flawed. They need to step away from the holy trinity and embrace the true spirit of a final fantasy.

Honestly I'd say aside from Warrior all the jobs in XIV are probably my personal ideal version of each classic FF job, so no complaints here in that regard.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

GW2 has no trinity for most of the game it's true. But if you step into raid content they do fit with Bulky, Damage, Support trinity albeit less intense than the classic MMORPG formula.

The game turned me off before they even added raid content. after getting 3 80s with map completion, there was nothing to do.

[JeromeBoi]

The only advantage of a long ass que in my opinion, is that it provides me with a good moment to do college work lol.

[Deceptus]

Do I like to tank? Honestly not really.

Do I enjoy instant queues? Absolutely.

So I make a choice. Sit in queue or tank. I feel my time is better spent tanking.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

Is Tank not already extraordinarily rewarding with the instant queues, exclusive mounts, daily EXP bonuses on every roulette, etc.?