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    SerLuke's Avatar
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    Are they all really "bads" or maybe people with disabilities?

    I'm a bit afraid to be posting this because I'm not sure what the reaction will be but... I have a learning disability, sometimes it takes me few pulls to learn normal raid mechs, I get a bit disheartened when I see people almost bragging or taking joy in kicking "bad" players who have trouble with mechanics, I've experienced this in game before when I was hesitant to tell people that I had a disability, and recently I have started telling people I have a learning disability when I have trouble with content(it took me a few pulls to clear O12 normal I said I had a learning disability and 3 people immediately left then ironically we cleared on the first pull when we had some people join in progress(who if I recall were all new to the fight), I MT'd the fight and was even able to explain the mechanics to the new comers it just seems like there's a lot of people in the XIV community who are quick to leave/kick if there's any sort of issues without being patient or trying to address the problem or trying to understand the people they are partying with.

    I might not clear savage/ultimate raids but I don't think by any means I'm a bad player I normally run current relevant normal mode content and I keep aggro I've even been trying to push out more DPS when I can(admittedly I do struggle a bit in swapping between hotbars quickly but I think with practice I've gotten better. just because it might take me a little bit longer to learn content and I just kinda get disheartened the way I see people say how many people that play this game are "bad" and it feels like they are talking in part about me. Has anyone here experienced this kind of thing at all?
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    You can always make a party finder to find people who are willing to help. Everyone has their difficulties and duty finder can always be a gamble.
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    Are they all disabled or just bad?

    It can swing either way, the point is that nobody really cares. We only care about getting things done in a timely and reasonably efficient manner, and if other players are holding that back, disability or not, they're likely to be chastised for it. Is it fair? Hell no, but do you have to justify yourself to someone you're likely to never meet in game again? Why bother. Move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    Are they all disabled or just bad?

    It can swing either way, the point is that nobody really cares. We only care about getting things done in a timely and reasonably efficient manner, and if other players are holding that back, disability or not, they're likely to be chastised for it. Is it fair? Hell no, but do you have to justify yourself to someone you're likely to never meet in game again? Why bother. Move on.
    That's true I should move on, in addition to my disability I also struggle with major depression so I guess the comments/the kicks just end up sticking with me and dragging me down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerLuke View Post
    That's true I should move on, in addition to my disability I also struggle with major depression so I guess the comments/the kicks just end up sticking with me and dragging me down.
    That's the key thing. It's really hard to do so, but just try to rise above it. You shouldn't have to tell everyone about your difficulties, you shouldn't have to defend yourself. Assholes will be assholes at the end of the day and there's nothing you can do to change that. What you can change is how you react to it. Stay strong. *fistbump*
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerLuke View Post
    That's true I should move on, in addition to my disability I also struggle with major depression so I guess the comments/the kicks just end up sticking with me and dragging me down.
    A mmo might be a bad thing to play if you are suffering from depression. Granted the social aspect is what makes mmo so popular at least that is why it's the only game I play. Sorry I can't be more helpful. I do have a younger brother with a disability but he doesn't play video games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirwen View Post
    A mmo might be a bad thing to play if you are suffering from depression. Granted the social aspect is what makes mmo so popular at least that is why it's the only game I play. Sorry I can't be more helpful. I do have a younger brother with a disability but he doesn't play video games.
    There are more positives than negatives for me because I have friends in game where I'm super shy and lonely irl.
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    It can also be from using an older PC that barely (or perhaps even doesn't) meet minimum system requirements. I would fail Active Time Maneuvers on my old PC that aren't a problem now that I have a new one.

    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    Are they all disabled or just bad?

    It can swing either way, the point is that nobody really cares. We only care about getting things done in a timely and reasonably efficient manner, and if other players are holding that back, disability or not, they're likely to be chastised for it. Is it fair? Hell no, but do you have to justify yourself to someone you're likely to never meet in game again? Why bother. Move on.
    Duty Finder is there to allow all players to find a group, regardless of their personal skill level, as long as they meet minimum level/ilvl requirements.

    If you're only interested in a smooth run, you're better off using Party Finder where you control who is added to the group to ensure you get your smooth run.
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    Player CorbinDallas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It can also be from using an older PC that barely (or perhaps even doesn't) meet minimum system requirements. I would fail Active Time Maneuvers on my old PC that aren't a problem now that I have a new one.


    Duty Finder is there to allow all players to find a group, regardless of their personal skill level, as long as they meet minimum level/ilvl requirements.

    If you're only interested in a smooth run, you're better off using Party Finder where you control who is added to the group to ensure you get your smooth run.
    I know why they are there, thanks. You mean to tell me you didn't queue into The Burn for the first time via DF and had your tank zoom off instantly while you wanted to absorb the lore/environment/ambience at a decent pace? You can't deny PF mentality bleeds into DF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    If you're only interested in a smooth run, you're better off using Party Finder where you control who is added to the group to ensure you get your smooth run.
    ^^
    Quoted for Truth.

    If you Q up via Duty Finder, then you need to accept that there is the possibility you will end up with someone who performs less than optimally for any number of reasons including, but not limited to:

    --Age (Older people have slower reaction times, and less alertness in general)
    --Disability
    --Laziness
    --Not knowing their job very well
    --Not knowing the dungeon very well
    --Fatigue/Sleep Deprivation/etc
    --Intoxication
    --RL Distractions

    If you can't handle these, then you should not be using the Duty Finder, period. If you get a group with a such person, then you either deal with it or leave.

    The Duty Finder's primary purpose is to as quickly as possible make a viable match for the dungeon(s) you wish to do. It's not there for you to get "nice smooth timely runs". Many runs will be reasonably fast, but yet there's always those times when you'll get one or more players that aren't performing as well as you'd like them to. But yet such is the gamble you agree to when you click the button.
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    Last edited by Maeka; 09-27-2018 at 04:03 AM.

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