PVP needs alot of work still

**DemonwrathDeathreign** · 08-29-2018 05:33 AM

PVP was fine before stormblood, all se did was make us vets get more kills than usual. I feel the problem with pvp is rewards make it worth grinding. This is my only issue with the game and has been since we only had wolves den. I like turning on TERA & Neverwinter & ESO and having a reason to skip all and pvp all day. I wish se saw this and loaded up the pvp merchants. Also maybe a massive pvp area like Anemos & Pagos would fill the needs of the open world & seige pvp wants. FFXIV has the most balanced pvp and could easily be the best if they had few more creative minds at the studio. I have much more i wanna say but I already have over the years and was painfully worthless to speak about it.

**Crit** · 08-31-2018 02:52 PM

play feast, its great

**Spigget** · 09-01-2018 04:41 AM

Originally Posted by Crit

play feast, its great

I'm trying to but Training and Ranked are over 30m queue =(*

I agree with the OP that the rewards need to be a little more obtainable/rewarding so that players are more inclined to PvP. Leave the 100 and 200 win mounts but add some other fun stuff in-between that's not just glamours. I also believe The Feast should have items that you can buy once you reach a certain rank or something along those lines in order to give people something to strive for outside of the end of season rewards. I enjoy the PvP but it takes an eon to get into anything, if you even get into it at all.

**DemonwrathDeathreign** · 09-03-2018 11:37 PM

I have may times over the years but its nothing like hoping into a 4 v 4 in eso battlegrounds or 3v3 in tera.

**DemonwrathDeathreign** · 09-03-2018 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by Spigget

I'm trying to but Training and Ranked are over 30m queue =(*

I agree with the OP that the rewards need to be a little more obtainable/rewarding so that players are more inclined to PvP. Leave the 100 and 200 win mounts but add some other fun stuff in-between that's not just glamours. I also believe The Feast should have items that you can buy once you reach a certain rank or something along those lines in order to give people something to strive for outside of the end of season rewards. I enjoy the PvP but it takes an eon to get into anything, if you even get into it at all.

I agree, saddly this wont happen probably because of the demographic is too worried about glamour and se caters to them. They had chances to do this many times but never have. I missed when secure first launched it was when ffxiv pvp was the most fun but now it feels like se just likes to rinse and repeat with ffxiv pvp.

**Stormfur** · 09-04-2018 01:15 AM

yeah, nobody does training unless it's pre-season and there's an event for it, like something going on in the Wolf Pups Den discord.

Feast in particular needs a lot of work. If they want that to be the standard by which they build all the other forms of PVP (I saw this in an interview), then they need to take care f oit and nurture it -- and not with that carrot-on-a-stick that requires an insane amount of time to just wait and hope that queues pop, let alone that you get matched with people who know what they're doing and not go all leeroy jenkins in the middle of the arena.

**Kaiche** · 09-05-2018 08:31 AM

It has a lot of potential for growth but what are the devs doing with it? not a lot thats for sure. I'm surprised we haven't had skill additions to all jobs yet like old pvp skills back in heavensward such as Testudo, Full swing etc. We also still dont have the old maps back which is a shame because when they were in rotation it was interesting since both had different strats to them. would love a huge zone to pvp in like OP said but I guess thats pretty much frontlines in a way.

**Wyvernheart** · 09-05-2018 08:58 AM

Open world ish zone with some kind of sign up for fl FATEs. Bring in pvp gear for this area/ mode only.

Nurf SAM

**Nirokun** · 10-04-2018 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure

Tonight I found out that apparently people can kick you for just sitting at a base so you don't feed other GCs kills(I suck at new Stormblood PVP and PVP in general so I was trying not to get in peoples way, but I also liked Heavensward PVP more when I was in the mood). So at this point PVP is dead to me... No mount, hairstyle, glamour piece, or achievement is worth sitting in whatever PVP hellhole you choose...

Sounds like you were kicked for not participating and being dead weight, helping your team lose. You say you "suck" but dont leave the base to practice in FL to get better? You're just a leech and you're bringing your team down. Kicking you to get someone else who will participate was the right choice for your team, that should be clear to everyone.

**DRKoftheAzure** · 10-05-2018 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by Nirokun

Sounds like you were kicked for not participating and being dead weight, helping your team lose. You say you "suck" but dont leave the base to practice in FL to get better? You're just a leech and you're bringing your team down. Kicking you to get someone else who will participate was the right choice for your team, that should be clear to everyone.

Except It was near the end of the match(some idiot jinxed that Immortal Flames was going to win and Order of Twin Adder pulled so far ahead that they won) and DRK isn't exactly great at PVP(it's great in PVE either if you look at tank forums) so I was dead weight the moment I got in and I held the base. And to top it off I didn't even get rewards because I got kicked before the match ended(granted I was just doing Frontline because Wondrous Tails and Daily Challenge rewards so goes to show how pointless PVP has become now)... So the devs should remove kicking function in PVP just to punish the toxic PVP players... Or give more reward to players who want to que in as group... at this point I don't care anymore, I'm done with PVP...

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