PvP changes in Patch 4.41

**Stevec** · 10-01-2018 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Fishbowl3

so all this and no quality of life improvements?

The WHM change with tetra was a QoL improvement for WHM. The midare buff last patch was a QoL improvement for SAM.

4.41 will most likely see QoL improvements to the other classes that have not received one, or hopefully changes to classes that desperately need a kit rework/update (looking at you SMN).

**Notcs** · 10-01-2018 12:26 PM

nice, i hope u see my topic ;D

**Cleanse** · 10-02-2018 04:40 AM

Originally Posted by Fishbowl3

so all this and no quality of life improvements?

Be more specific. There have been QoL changes added in most updates as of late.

**Sunako** · 10-02-2018 07:35 PM

WHM buff is pretty big once assize do not cost lilies anymore. It is same time lot easier to play and control your mana pool.

**Risvertasashi** · 10-02-2018 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by Sunako

WHM buff is pretty big once assize do not cost lilies anymore. It is same time lot easier to play and control your mana pool.

Yeah this change surprised me quite a bit - but it's not unwelcome. Also frees up lillies to be used with the new tetra.

**ArianneMartellMateus** · 10-05-2018 04:58 AM

Technically couldn't an alliance of 24 white mage in frontlines wipe an enemy alliance if they all used assize? And not sure if it's overpowered but they can do a good chunk of damage to both adrenaline kits with it, was that intended?

**Mirch** · 10-05-2018 06:52 PM

healing is getting harder on the feast!
it is great!

**kensatsu** · 10-05-2018 09:37 PM

its harder for any healer to heal now,
my opignion for this patch :
1/ sch is overnerfed for our meta in Chaos/NA, seem they do it for the japanese meta, its why i would be curious to see on an event FFXIV related with best japan lp versus best NA or EU lp feast match.

2/ its hard to balance the 3 tanks, since all 3 tanks is pretty different , if you gonna buff damage like in this patch, the war shine more when i tough he was already good before.

I Hope SE will look into this next feast patch

**Cleanse** · 10-08-2018 11:17 AM

Pre 4.4/4.41, if teams coordinated and burst at every opportunity available, kills would happen often outside of Culling/Danger Time. Bursting as frequently as possible will burn through enemy defensive cooldowns, thus swaying the match in the favor of the attacking team.

The changes in the 4.4X patches definitely reflect the JP FRC events more so than the EU/NA FRC events. Also, during the PvPaissa, Aether Cup (now the Wolves Cup), and Aether League events, the pace/excitement was in a pretty good place as a spectator (I believe these events were played on the s8/9 patches).

Job balance was off for some overpowered and underpowered jobs. Mobility is very strong (SAM), ranged jobs with no mobility and requiring to be in melee range are/were big issues (SMN).

Whereas in JP
- The meta is more passive, not because of game mechanics/balance, but choice Which is fine, but is not optimal to balance around.
- Defensive cooldowns are mostly always up outside of the initial attack in Danger Time,
- Danger Time skirmishes are a 'coin flip' because of the nature of the damage scaling debuff players receive.

If the JP region continue to play passive, the changes will only affect the western regions, which did not need more power pushed onto the melee (SAM/DRG) role. The game balance will be more polarized and give less job variety.

TLDR, when balancing for a region's play style and not for the game mode's overall potential, imbalance is created.

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