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    Quote Originally Posted by trep View Post
    That's a personal opinion, but i never thought you could get both good PvP and good PvE. It just becomes an endless quest for balancing if you try to achieve both and, especially for FFXiV, it's not something i want them to work on (trying to balance boh). Maybe they'll come with the same principle they had in FFXi with the regions control.
    This is a pretty good idea. i liked this in XI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trep View Post
    That's a personal opinion, but i never thought you could get both good PvP and good PvE. It just becomes an endless quest for balancing if you try to achieve both and, especially for FFXiV, it's not something i want them to work on (trying to balance boh). Maybe they'll come with the same principle they had in FFXi with the regions control.
    Good PvP and PvE can be done, just a matter of how. The best way I've seen PvP and PvE balanced is separately. They have two teams and they have the class/abilities function differently depending of the PvP or PvE setting.

    For example, in PvE they have THM with high mana costs and damage, but in PvP they made the casting times a little shorter but do less damage. Makes it so a PvE ability adjustment not affect the PvP version and vice verse. That is just one rough example, but I've seen other MMOs and non-MMOs balance the two separately for good results. A good example is Star Craft II. Certain units are not available for multi-player and the damage and defense of units are adjusted as well.

    I hope and can't wait for a well implemented PvP system in FF14, because an additional to pass my time in a game is never a bad thing.

    As for the world, I believe Yoshi said he as going away from the open world setup for FF14. I foresee lots of zones and areas to explore with this.

    The Grand companies are not peaceful with each other. They are just working together because they the Empire is a bigger threat. It is said a few times, that the companies fear an attack from another company the moment that the Empire is handled.
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    Honestly PVP is perfectly possible without going down the old faction vs faction path. Just do different Colosseum event battles ( 1 v 1, 4 v 4, etc.) and maybe mix in some objectives or throw a monster into the mix as a third party to fight against. The npcs seem to do this all the time in Ul'dah already, and Yoshi has said battles like that are in the works.

    Doing something with the Grand Companies as far as resource control would be nice.
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    There is really nothing in the game thus far that says "the adventurer" is from Eorzea. For all we know, we are actually from the empire (or some other far off nation) and come to Eorzea to save them from themselves. Or perhaps beckoned by the true gods to assist this tiny little continent.

    That being said, it would be plausible to have Garlemald available to us, though not necessarily part of their "faction."
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    I agree with the OP, at least in the sense I don't like any of the current allegiances (Ul'dah being the "lesser of evils") while Garlemaid is at least a technocracy (ergo, they actually revere evolution and technology), making it an acceptable allegiance in my book.
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    I'd be more excited if they open up Ishgard, Ala Mihgo, or Sharlayan. Especially Sharlayan, since as far as I'm aware, theres only a handful of npcs in the game who mention it.
    Also Ala Mihgo could easily be the "Empire City" you visit, as it is tied pretty heavily into the story, and seems like any future story content missions could have you go there to liberate it.
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    I don't like the idea of two sides it cut down the community i dislike it in WoW and many other MMO. Top of that Yoshi-p said they never allow open dual so it's pointless. PVP would be somewhat like ffxi and that fine it's in there own area away from other who don't like the idea of pvp. I myself would try pvp one in a while but i never really took pvp serious in MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    I don't like the idea of two sides it cut down the community i dislike it in WoW and many other MMO. Top of that Yoshi-p said they never allow open dual so it's pointless. PVP would be somewhat like ffxi and that fine it's in there own area away from other who don't like the idea of pvp. I myself would try pvp one in a while but i never really took pvp serious in MMO.
    I know i am the one that put this out there originally but personally i cant stand most pvp. I hated it in WOW and stayed away from it. I just thought this would be an interesting dynamic to discuss.
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    no faction pvp crap please, faction pvp always end up as failure
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    There is no such thing as good PvP.

    PvP goes like this:

    Player A is higher level and stronger than Player B; Player A wins.

    Player B calls a friend, Player C, who is higher level and stronger than Player A; Player C wins.

    Player A calls a friend, Player D, who is higher level and stronger than Player C; Player D wins.

    Rinse, lather, repeat.

    YAWN

    Frankly, I'd rather see the devs focus on something more worthwhile and entertaining than adding in such a ridiculous thing. But I also know, for some odd reason, some people actually like this kind of gameplay so I hope eventually some sort of PvP ends up in game for them. I have a feeling you can look to XI for the kind of PvP you can expect here though. It may not be what you think.
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