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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Roulette and MSQ already takes care of this incentive. Loot is how you provide the incentive to run the harder versions of said trial, otherwise why run it all?

    If anything, they should be taking anything and everything out of story mode trials and raids for the shear fact that you can get your clear using roulette. Duty roulette has its own rewards already outside of anything additional you get from running the content.

    If you want to reduce the wait time for a story mode encounter, then queue as a tank or healer.
    Roulettes for story mode trials simply do not work. Try running the MSQ as a dps (like most new players do) and will wait usually an hour for any Heavensward and Stormblood trial. There aren't enough players running Trial roulette to make a difference here (even less players are running Mentor roulette).

    And I'm not talking about adding the Ex loot to the Normal trial, for MHW they did add different stuff to both versions of the trial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalithaSolarien View Post
    Roulettes for story mode trials simply do not work. Try running the MSQ as a dps (like most new players do) and will wait usually an hour for any Heavensward and Stormblood trial. There aren't enough players running Trial roulette to make a difference here (even less players are running Mentor roulette).

    And I'm not talking about adding the Ex loot to the Normal trial, for MHW they did add different stuff to both versions of the trial.
    I can't speak for Chaos, but over on Aether I have never waited more than twenty minutes during prime time hours for any roulette save Main Scenario and occasionally 50/60. Most typically pop within 5-10 minutes. Adding weapons or whatnot isn't going to speed this along because they will be inferior. Why play with RNG in a Suzaku normal trial when you can easily obtain a i370 weapon through guaranteed Mendacity farming and one Rabanastre and Ridorana run?

    Normal mode exists purely for story and little else. The inventive people have to continuously run it is Trial Roulette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    I can't speak for Chaos, but over on Aether I have never waited more than twenty minutes during prime time hours for any roulette save Main Scenario and occasionally 50/60. Most typically pop within 5-10 minutes. Adding weapons or whatnot isn't going to speed this along because they will be inferior. Why play with RNG in a Suzaku normal trial when you can easily obtain a i370 weapon through guaranteed Mendacity farming and one Rabanastre and Ridorana run?

    Normal mode exists purely for story and little else. The inventive people have to continuously run it is Trial Roulette.
    Trial Roulette (as a dps) pops in 5 minutes but if queue for any Trial from post-ARR onward as a dps be prepared for 60 minutes wait time over here. And the pool from Trial Roulette will not help for anything from Royal Menagerie onward (nobody will queue that as a level 70 job).

    This might not have been clear, but I don't want to see weapons drop from Normal trials, but things like glamor items or housing stuff (like they did with MHW Normal) would be nice. Make it a drop chance so people have an incentive to run these more often.
    Right now the Normal trial seem pretty much wasted content that people only run once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalithaSolarien View Post
    Trial Roulette (as a dps) pops in 5 minutes but if queue for any Trial from post-ARR onward as a dps be prepared for 60 minutes wait time over here. And the pool from Trial Roulette will not help for anything from Royal Menagerie onward (nobody will queue that as a level 70 job).

    This might not have been clear, but I don't want to see weapons drop from Normal trials, but things like glamor items or housing stuff (like they did with MHW Normal) would be nice. Make it a drop chance so people have an incentive to run these more often.
    Right now the Normal trial seem pretty much wasted content that people only run once.
    Friend of mine has recently gone through the story again on a DPS and only waited 40 minutes on old dungeons, primarily because 50/60 roulette offers garbage EXP. Therefore, no one bothers unless it's a new raid tier. Regardless, if you put glamour rewards, people are simply going to unsync thing. I can solo every single ARR trial and a good chunk of HW ones. If I'm farming for someone, it makes more sense to do it by myself since it guarantees I get the item.
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