Why don't normal Trials drop anything?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Roulettes for story mode trials simply do not work. Try running the MSQ as a dps (like most new players do) and will wait usually an hour for any Heavensward and Stormblood trial. There aren't enough players running Trial roulette to make a difference here (even less players are running Mentor roulette).

And I'm not talking about adding the Ex loot to the Normal trial, for MHW they did add different stuff to both versions of the trial.

I can't speak for Chaos, but over on Aether I have never waited more than twenty minutes during prime time hours for any roulette save Main Scenario and occasionally 50/60. Most typically pop within 5-10 minutes. Adding weapons or whatnot isn't going to speed this along because they will be inferior. Why play with RNG in a Suzaku normal trial when you can easily obtain a i370 weapon through guaranteed Mendacity farming and one Rabanastre and Ridorana run?

Normal mode exists purely for story and little else. The inventive people have to continuously run it is Trial Roulette.

[TalithaSolarien]

I can't speak for Chaos, but over on Aether I have never waited more than twenty minutes during prime time hours for any roulette save Main Scenario and occasionally 50/60. Most typically pop within 5-10 minutes. Adding weapons or whatnot isn't going to speed this along because they will be inferior. Why play with RNG in a Suzaku normal trial when you can easily obtain a i370 weapon through guaranteed Mendacity farming and one Rabanastre and Ridorana run?

Normal mode exists purely for story and little else. The inventive people have to continuously run it is Trial Roulette.

Trial Roulette (as a dps) pops in 5 minutes but if queue for any Trial from post-ARR onward as a dps be prepared for 60 minutes wait time over here. And the pool from Trial Roulette will not help for anything from Royal Menagerie onward (nobody will queue that as a level 70 job).

This might not have been clear, but I don't want to see weapons drop from Normal trials, but things like glamor items or housing stuff (like they did with MHW Normal) would be nice. Make it a drop chance so people have an incentive to run these more often.
Right now the Normal trial seem pretty much wasted content that people only run once.

[Derio]

With the way Pagos is, casuals need the normal raids to get a good weapon

[Cabalabob]

I’d be up for normal mode primals dropping a second ring, you can get full i380 gear from normal mode raids, so why not have that last ring slot come from the equivalent normal mode primal?

[BillyKaplan]

I'm hoping they'll do what they did with Ultima and Dun Scaith. Give us another option for accessories, which both helps with plain gearing (every accessory token is tomestones spent elsewhere) as well as push that extra ilvl bit with another ring.

Other than that, I can only see them introducing extra accessories or what not if they ever add two extreme primals at once like Lakshmi and Susano. Though damn I'd love some Lakshmi weapons, they'd have to be pretty.

[van_arn]

Yeah if you have hundreds of K to blow on these items....



And you're actually supporting this?

You're trying to say it's a good thing that we can no longer enjoy and appreciate having multiple jobs at cap?

Being able to change jobs on the fly is one of the major selling points of FFXIV, but yet you think it's OK that people should be forced into one, *maybe* two jobs once they reach the level cap until way late into an expansion when they can finally put some time into getting weapons for their other jobs?

Yes, actually. But it doesn't matter what I support or don't support, you either put in the work to gear every class you want (be that Gil, crafting, or dungeon grinding) or you're going to remain a second class citizen.

By design.

[Fynlar]

Normal raids should be the exact same as well, just story.

Yeah, because what this game needed was even less content for casual players to do.

[Reynhart]

Yeah, because what this game needed was even less content for casual players to do.

No, what this games need is more incentive for casuals to try harder content. If the easy content provide both story and powerful gear, they'll never took a shot at the higher difficulties.
Normal raid gear and capped tome gear are too powerful, especially since you absolutely don't need them if you never set foot in EX and Savage content.

[Ameela]

Only reason Garuda, Titan and Ifrit HM dropped weapons was because they were already harder versions of the stort versions, which did in fact not drop anything.

[Kewitt]

What do you think normal mode trials should drop?
I agree I would like to see something more from normal mode.