What is with people?

[KaldeaSahaline]

So after doing 1 run of alphascape v3.0 and we all wipe after the first round, and next thing you know i'm dismissed from the duty along with this message.

I'd really like to see a member of the party post some logs of what actually went down. Based on the last time you posted something like this, you left a lot of details out in your OP.

Since you were kicked by a majority of the group, you definitely were doing something you shouldn't have.

I stand by my original point before you blacklisted me in game. I will GLADLY teach you how to be a good PLD if you're interested. You just have to ask.

For others reading here is the context:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...76#post4602876

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ht-before-boss.

Boy that person is an idiot for putting that in party chat because that's totally reportable. Classic harassment and abuse of the vote kick system. Glad you reported them.

I don't think it's an abuse of vote kick at all. It seems of the 7 others, they agreed that the group was better off. Speaking personally, I wouldn't report someone if they said this to me. It's actually kinda funny, and HARDLY something worth getting upset/hurt about TBH.

I wish people were more willing to give actual advice and constructive criticism lol.

Then again I also wish more people in DF were willing to receive advice and constructive criticism.

See above.

[xMysticx]

I'd really like to see a member of the party post some logs of what actually went down. Based on the last time you posted something like this, you left a lot of details out in your OP.

Since you were kicked by a majority of the group, you definitely were doing something you shouldn't have.

I stand by my original point before you blacklisted me in game. I will GLADLY teach you how to be a good PLD if you're interested. You just have to ask.

For others reading here is the context:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...76#post4602876

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ht-before-boss.



I don't think it's an abuse of vote kick at all. It seems of the 7 others, they agreed that the group was better off. Speaking personally, I wouldn't report someone if they said this to me. It's actually kinda funny, and HARDLY something worth getting upset/hurt about TBH.



See above.

I don't have to provide anything else other than i posted, i was kicked 1 Run of it 1 wipe, also wanna mention i was doing everything right, now that i think about it probably was a group of trolls, also i was upset because they sent that message as soon as they kicked me before i could say anything back, Another example of abuse of the kick system. also i don't need any teaching, I Have over 250 comms.

[SendohJin]

I don't have to provide anything else other than i posted, i was kicked 1 Run of it 1 wipe, also wanna mention i was doing everything right,

were you MT or OT?

[Legion88]

I don't have to provide anything else other than i posted, i was kicked 1 Run of it 1 wipe, also wanna mention i was doing everything right[...]

I doubt this.

also i don't need any teaching, I Have over 250 comms.

Wow, 250 comms, that is very much, i just mean i got next to 3000 comms so i must be Mr. Perfect play.
Comms mean nothing outside of getting some nice achievments and achievement rewards.

[DevonEllwood]

also i don't need any teaching, I Have over 250 comms.

There is always room for improvement, whether it be with your skills or yourself. A little humility can go a long way.

[VanishingPuppet]

I don't have to provide anything else other than i posted, i was kicked 1 Run of it 1 wipe, also wanna mention i was doing everything right, now that i think about it probably was a group of trolls, also i was upset because they sent that message as soon as they kicked me before i could say anything back, Another example of abuse of the kick system. also i don't need any teaching, I Have over 250 comms.

Uh...well... I was going to not add anything, but this tipped me over the edge. You are not an angel. I walk in to content and eat dirt, but I try to think about what I did wrong or I notice it in the fight and make a mental note for next time.

I was thinking you were talking about Savage when I was first going through this, but after double checking you were vote abandoning Normal v3. I came back after not playing for an entire tier and one-shot v3 on Monday evening. I'm not saying it's your fault, but I'm not saying it's not either. I've not seen you play so that's not my place, but there is always something to correct or improve upon. I have probably around 2,000 commendations by now and I still think I need to improve. So for you to turn down help like this is quite telling of your true character.

Should they have said that to you before kicking? No, probably not. Did they offer gameplay or mechanic advice before that? We don't know since you've only shown us your side of the story. Do I think it's probably partially your fault at the least? Yes. I've played super poorly before on a run where I'm just screwing up, but after the wipe I apologize and say that it was my bad. People are generally quite responsive to self-criticism, but very few do it. The people here should be spending less time and effort berating the people that said this to you like you are craving for them to do as you seek validation and spend more time genuinely helping YOU get to a position where this won't happen again. Maybe you should take /u/KaldeaSahaline's offer just for constructive criticism.

[Ilan]

I don't have to provide anything else other than i posted, i was kicked 1 Run of it 1 wipe, also wanna mention i was doing everything right, now that i think about it probably was a group of trolls, also i was upset because they sent that message as soon as they kicked me before i could say anything back, Another example of abuse of the kick system. also i don't need any teaching, I Have over 250 comms.

Sorry its not an abuse of the kick system because your playstyle obviously differed from theirs. Also commendations don't say anything about if you are good or bad as a player.
Did they have to write something like this? No. Did you maybe provoke it if you wrote something like "i don't need any teaching cause i have over 250 comms."? Most likely.

[RiyahArp]

I don't think it's an abuse of vote kick at all. It seems of the 7 others, they agreed that the group was better off.

There's not much the main tank or ot does in that fight though. Main tank rotates cooldowns, and mostly tries not to get hit by the fists. OT can grab the tether, but to be honest its just as easy if not, as long as the player who has it runs away from the group. In that fight if you wipe, its often more the healers getting nailed than anything; tanks and dps are only vital at the add phase, and theres little damage then.

Its hard to see how one wipe would get a response unless OP was over voking the tank, getting dead a ridiculous amount, etc.

[xMysticx]

There's not much the main tank or ot does in that fight though. Main tank rotates cooldowns, and mostly tries not to get hit by the fists. OT can grab the tether, but to be honest its just as easy if not, as long as the player who has it runs away from the group. In that fight if you wipe, its often more the healers getting nailed than anything; tanks and dps are only vital at the add phase, and theres little damage then.

Its hard to see how one wipe would get a response unless OP was over voking the tank, getting dead a ridiculous amount, etc.

barely anyone communicated, so at times it was pretty confusing.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

There's not much the main tank or ot does in that fight though. Main tank rotates cooldowns, and mostly tries not to get hit by the fists. OT can grab the tether, but to be honest its just as easy if not, as long as the player who has it runs away from the group. In that fight if you wipe, its often more the healers getting nailed than anything; tanks and dps are only vital at the add phase, and theres little damage then.

Its hard to see how one wipe would get a response unless OP was over voking the tank, getting dead a ridiculous amount, etc.

Considering this looks to be the same PLD who did nothing but Shield Lob spam as Kaldea's posts indicate, they very easily could have done something similar. Or kept dragging Omega all over the place. That will make dodging Larboard/Starboard far more difficult. It's very unlikely seven people agreed to kick him after a single wipe despite him being perfectly innocent. Do you know how frequently Vote Abandons are rejected in 24 mans if they're put up after a wipe or two? I'm just not buying it.