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  1. #1
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    xMysticx's Avatar
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    No one should ever have to tell anyone that they have an issue with boss-stealing.
    The tank who pulls is the MT, the other expected to go into off-tank-stance and focus on dealing damage instead of even touching their aggro-rotation. Stealing a boss is very, very, very bad taste and you not realising that shows only that you might have improved from only using shield lobe to hold aggro but still dont understand how this game or team-play works.

    I'm sorry, this is probably making me angrier than it should, but... what the hell? "Please dont rip aggro off the maintank" isnt something you need to be told in current endgame content, common sense should be able to tell you that! (And as paladin you should actually prefer to OT, since it benefits a lot of your skills)
    You are not supposed to fight over aggro with your Co-Tank - you are both fighting that boss together. You're fighting that boss with your party. You are supposed to work with your party - not against them.

    Getting close to grab aggro? Use Shirk on your MT, to help them keep aggro and ensure a smooth run.

    You called this "witchhunt" sad... I call it sad that you havent really learned from last time, because you made two crucial-mistakes back then: The first one was not understanding how tanking works, which is forgiveable in general, a bit less forgiveable in content past level 30. But the second mistake was not owning up to that mistake and to play the victim-card instead.
    And you're repeating that second mistake right here. Insults might be uncalled for, but you lying about "no one (especially not you) playing badly" and you not making any mistakes, only for it later to be revealed that you still havent grasps how tanking, and specially working together with your party works, is pretty damn sad.

    I honestly feel more sorry for the 7 people who must have believed that they were being trolled than for someone whos playing the "victim" and "I'm new!"-card but unable to perform very basic stuff like teamwork, Shirk, non-aggro-combos and not stealing aggro...
    nobody was playing the victim card or lying, if anyone it was my fault and i own up to it, but i'd gladly ask everyone to stop lecturing me over my mistakes, just because a couple bad experiences isn't going to stop me from tanking. i think your bit over exaggerating.
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    Last edited by xMysticx; 09-28-2018 at 02:20 AM.

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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Quote Originally Posted by xMysticx View Post
    nobody was playing the victim card or lying, if anyone it was my fault and i own up to it, but i'd gladly ask everyone to stop lecturing me over my mistakes.
    You just said that you need to be told not to rip aggro of MTs - and obvious mistake that you dont even seem to be aware off making. How are you supposed to improve upon those things if people dont tell you?

    You also claimed that:

    Quote Originally Posted by xMysticx View Post
    nobody was playing bad... everyone got upset and resort to dismissing someone from the duty.
    Which, as sorry I am to say that, you clearly were, if that report of the run is to be believed (and why shouldnt we believe it? You even confirmed yourself that you ripped aggro of the MT which isnt only bad play but also bad etiquette.)
    So if you werent lying at that point, you were unaware of you making pretty obvious mistakes that you shouldnt make anymore in level 70, wether that content is a week or a year old.

    Quote Originally Posted by xMysticx View Post
    all i have to say is some of these responses is just laughable, telling me i wasn't playing my class right or i'm the one trolling, the whole point of this thread was the insult because its against tos and why wouldn't i?, i don't know why some of you are blind to this fact, it's not about knowing mechanics or not knowing how play my class, it's about the fact that i wanted to share my experience with this.
    I'm not trying to justify the insult you recived, I still think they should have handled the issue with just removing you silently. And while I'm not saying you deserved that insult, I hope you do realise that your poor and bad play got you into a situation yet again in which a party felt the need to remove you from a duty to clear it in an enjoyable way, because you're not able to do, because you dont communicate with your party and lack basic understanding of common "strageties (like: dont steal aggro) and how to play your class.

    Sorry, if this thread didnt went the way you wanted to - with everyone telling you how terrible you were treated (and the treatment was infact not very nice).
    But let me tell you that I'm asking the thread-question "What is it with people?" way, way more often about players who need to improve on very basic concepts in endgame content - "What is it with people that they've reached level 70 and still dont understand how a tank-swap works?" - "What is it with people who reached level 70 and still dont know to drop tank-stance when offtanking?" - "What is it with people not knowing how Shirk works and how to use it?" (...granted, that one is naive and wishful thinking).
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    Last edited by Vidu; 09-28-2018 at 02:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xMysticx View Post
    if the other tank was going to mt, You should of said something, You never said ONCE about having a issue with me stealing the boss, i would of went damage aot, but your clearly denying the fact, and i also didn't reply to any chats because it's kinda hard to type while doing a boss, plus i've already cleared it .
    I've looked into you a bit more, and I'm perfectly happy to let the posted message go through.

    Your presence in capped content, in itself, is harassment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    I've looked into you a bit more, and I'm perfectly happy to let the posted message go through.

    Your presence in capped content, in itself, is harassment.
    not really but okay, how about stop replying to this thread and let it die?
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    Wow. This thread was a ride. Thank you, OF.
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    it's kinda sad when a simple thread gets total chaos when a bunch of elitists invade it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xMysticx View Post
    it's kinda sad when a simple thread gets total chaos when a bunch of elitists invade it.
    There's that word again, being tossed around with no care to it's use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xMysticx View Post
    it's kinda sad when a simple thread gets total chaos when a bunch of elitists invade it.
    Comments like these do not help. Just because things are getting picked apart, or you don't like what's being said, it doesn't mean that the opposition is now full of elitists.

    I think a little self-awareness would go a long way here. If you have things to learn/improve upon, hey, no big deal! The rest of us are in that same boat as well. However, it seems like whenever advice is given to you, you start tuning it out. You mentioned you have nothing to learn -that's just crazy talk. Being in denial is helping no one.

    While the person in your screenshot obviously crossed a line, you don't need to take all advice given as a personal attack. Most people mean well in this game, and it wouldn't hurt to try and listen now and then to see how it can improve your gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xMysticx View Post
    it's kinda sad when a simple thread gets total chaos when a bunch of elitists invade it.
    >Make a bad thread about muh hurt feels
    >get called out for being bad and that you should take advice
    >"Those damn elitists!!!!"

    Greatest Community Btw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damnhedge View Post
    >Make a bad thread about muh hurt feels
    >get called out for being bad and that you should take advice
    >"Those damn elitists!!!!"

    Greatest Community Btw
    Makes thread page 4 or 5 people go off topic when it has ZERO relevancy to the original post, i'd never said i wouldn't take advice.
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