Readability and the log text

[Laraul]

People don't understand what I am trying to get across. Do you not people not use the game log? I know most people don't bother with the battle log because it sends too much information at you to fast. All I am asking is why not display it in a way that's easier to comprehend when scanning thru it.

You people think I'm talking about text used for the naritive? Used for the story, NPC conversations, quest history, etc? The lore of the game? I'm not. I'm talking about the dreary repeative text that appears over and over and over.

This is a brief wikipedia article about Square/SquareEnix localizes their games. It basically does explain that that the team localizing the game is for the most part separate from the main the developers... this is not really a problem... though most SE games don't include a command line...

[Conradus]

People don't understand what I am trying to get across. Do you not people not use the game log? I know most people don't bother with the battle log because it sends too much information at you to fast. All I am asking is why not display it in a way that's easier to comprehend when scanning thru it.

Actually, I do understand. You want a completely standardized format, and I understand the advantages of that. I just don't think it's worth the loss of flavor.

You people think I'm talking about text used for the naritive? Used for the story, NPC conversations, quest history, etc? The lore of the game? I'm not. I'm talking about the dreary repeative text that appears over and over and over.

But my point is that it *is* part of the narrative, part of the lore, in its own small way.

[Urthdigger]

I understand precisely what you're talking about. And I still don't see any reason to change it. Heck, some of the weird words used has led to us learning some quite fascinating things from the localization team, who seem to LOVE that part of their job.

[Catapult]

The log is legible and even amusing sometimes. While there may be an argument to structure it as you say, the current system isn't broken.

In fact, I believe the current format takes away some of the dreariness of which you speak.

If it isn't broken, don't fix it.

[Urthdigger]

I think the decision is pretty unanimous. Since all of us like the oddities of the english client, Laraul can just go ahead and use the JP UI

[Laraul]

If it isn't broken, don't fix it.

EXACTLY! That's what I'm trying to say! They are fixing something that is fine to begin with. Thanks for unintentionally finding these words I so desperately needed!

And Urthdiggger... it's not about what people "like" it's what people need. If you think that it's fine that as of right now you can't go Jaqpanese -> English -> Japanese -> English or English -> Chinese -> German -> etc. you do not understand what my goal is. This is a positive thing for both the developers, not only the users. And that is something that's pretty hard to deny.

[Zozma]

Did some comparison of the 4 diffrent languages. I gotta agree that (apart from not understanding the language) the layout of JP is far superior compared to EN/FR/GE. I'd like to have some arrows and formatting on the EN logs.

Its not any dealbreaker, but I always ponderd why JP logs look "cooler" then mine

Screencaps of the main diffrenced I found.

[Pence]

I am drunk.

What I get from this thread: OP wants SOMETHING easier to comprehend. Yet no one understand what he/she/it is saying.

And then I read another post. Conradus comprehends what Laraul is trying to say, which he/she/it thinks people don't comprehend.

Update: I read another post. Earthdigger comprehends. Snaps for Marsdigger.

Updating the update: Laraul wants them to update something that's not broken. Or something.

Updated update: Still drunk

[Soukyuu]

Why was the format changed from the one the original client had anyway? I agree the JP log is more readable, and the French version seems to have kept at least some of it. I never started the game in German, but I expect it to be closer to English too.

[Laraul]

I originally started this thread under the "User Interface" forums. It was moved here to localization by an admin. I really don't think this is a localization issue. I think that admin made a mistake. Could some move this topic BACK to the User Interface discussion forum?