How would an optional, official parser be toxic?

[Bhearil]

Considering the cesspool that has become the thread everyone can concur that is a very polarizing issue, so its very unlikely(if not impossible) that FF14 gets an official parser ever. Those who want to parse themselves just keep using the unofficial parser, since SE wont do anything against you unless you start boasting about it (which is not the objective of the parser right? its for "improving" not "e-pening" unless you wanna use a parser on a toxic manner) so people can just use for themselves, on their static or as a complement to theorycrafting.

End of the discussion and everyone wins

[MageBlack]

Considering the cesspool that has become the thread everyone can concur that is a very polarizing issue, so its very unlikely(if not impossible) that FF14 gets an official parser ever. Those who want to parse themselves just keep using the unofficial parser, since SE wont do anything against you unless you start boasting about it (which is not the objective of the parser right? its for "improving" not "e-pening" unless you wanna use a parser on a toxic manner) so people can just use for themselves, on their static or as a complement to theorycrafting.

End of the discussion and everyone wins

I agree. except for the limitations of PS4 users, anyone who wants to use a parser or would get value from it, is already using one.

[Aerlana]

I'm just going to give up on this thread. No one wants to face the fact that parsers are tools that can fuel multiple things, including toxicity, because they're being wilfully narrow minded and only thinking of how it can benefit themselves. I hope SE don't catch on to the "there will always be jerks" justification that allows people to shrug dismissively at the bad side effects of something, because then the game would be headed down a dark path.

It is with the way you think that there is no more chat in feast... to get off a tool that helped toxic people to be toxic...

in ALL game i played (MMORPG, MOBA, FPS mainly) there were always the same kind of toxicity, adapted to the game, and when toxicity was away, it was because game did throw it away simply.
I remember when we had finally the readycheck in FF... people did have fun spamming this in raid24... was sooo wonderfull.

Tools dont create artisan. But artisans uses tools.
Chat, readycheck, parser, they are only the way those people uses to get toxic.

Maybe i have a really dark view of Human, yes...

End of the discussion and everyone wins

Or everyone looses in fact.
I am pro parser, but i would prefer SE to work on blocking any parser than the today situation.

Official parser = loose for the "anti" and PS4 players get their own. pro parsers on PS4 are happy >9000 and other smiles

But, in the current state, PS4 players doesnt have parser, and the "anti parser" get a situation where their FFlogs stats will make them allow or not to go in parties to some content (more it continue, harder it will be to find a party that dont check FFlogs). This is a way of toxicity for some part of them. (it seems a great part)



Without the PS4 matter, i wouldnt speak about official parser. As said by blackmage, if you go on end game content, you can easily discover where to get parser, ACT mainly, they are good...