Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
No one is talking about doing it mid fight. This game gives you no real indication that your about to hit a major wall. Up until that moment you have been led to believe that you have been doing fine. so you unlock hit que up in df or join a learning party and you get smashed and you have no idea what your doing wrong. And a player dawns it on you that you've been terrible the entire time you've been playing this game wrong that entire time you thought you were winning.

There is no real indication that this stuff your about to do is the hardest in this game. Most of those games for their hardest modes have a little description something like "you will not survive" "For players looking for the most brutal experience" things like that and that option is before you even start the game not when you've hit max level.
Shinryu isn’t a major wall now? Despite the countless numbers of sprout players dying multiple times during the trial? Even the 4.4 msq has multiple people having to retry with an echo buff.

You’re right that there isn’t any real indication of whether a player is doing decent or not because they end up getting carried by the other 7/23 players. However, if you end up dying mutliple times in the same instance, that should be an indication that maybe you’re not ready for the content past this. Also, the content is called hard/extreme/savage/ultimate for a reason with a high ilvl usually.