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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    You could take a look at WoW and see if the general playerbase is noticeably better than FFXIV's. You'll find it's not, despite the fact that the game has had parser add-ons for over a decade. The biggest difference is the frequency of parser related drama and the amount of kicks that occur.
    I'll find it is not? Are you sure? I think you made the incorrect assumption that I have not played WoW (I've played all expacs since BC). You also seem to think that your experience is the only point of view that exists and what you experienced must be what everyone else will experience too. A singular brush stroke does not make you see the entire painting.

    This is anecdotal, but if you want my opinion on my experiences in WoW....

    In my experience WoW's average player skill is higher than FFXIV, but this is just my experience so I can't use such a thing to claim the parser did that or not. No one has the proper data to make a determination on that except Blizzard.

    In my experience there was not a higher frequency of parser related drama or kicks.

    So our experiences differ, this kinda casts doubt on you using these anecdotes as factual data when someone else can have an opposite experience compared to yours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Then please enlighten me as to what is so special about FFXIV players that what parsers did in WoW would not be similar to FFXIV?

    I'm sure you'll respond with equally anecdotal data.
    Why do I have to do that? Burden of proof is on you since you claimed that parsers won't have any noticeable improvement to player skill based on your personal experiences on a totally different game.

    You have to prove that your anecdotal WoW experiences can be used as factual data to claim that everything that happens in that game to do with parsing will automatically happen here in FFXIV, since that is what you initially claimed which I challenged you on.

    You can't just try to mental gymnastics flip this on me somehow, it is not going to work.

    By your logic we might as well claim that 7.0 expac is going to automatically fail since Warlords suffered that fate on WoW. Since it happened in WoW it must be the same here, right? Different situation I know, but it is the same line of reasoning. You can obviously see how flawed using that as fact or proof really is.
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    Last edited by Miste; 10-04-2018 at 01:38 AM.